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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Friam <friam-bounces@redfish.com> on behalf of Roger Critchlow <rec@elf.org><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 2:55 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [FRIAM] Warring Darwinians for Glen, Steve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-- rec --<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 5:08 PM Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Oh, you SAY you do. Someday we’ll get Neuralink hardware on you and then WE WILL SEE.
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> on behalf of Frank Wimberly <<a href="mailto:wimberly3@gmail.com" target="_blank">wimberly3@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 2:04 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [FRIAM] Warring Darwinians for Glen, Steve</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Dammit, Nick. I can and frequently do spend hours planning, remembering, composing emails, fantasizing about my next car, etc without exhibiting any remarkable behavior beyond
eyeblinking, touching my face (don't!), crossing and uncrossing my legs. We've been through this before but what is my latest plan about what to do when my auto lease is up? No one knows but me despite your claim that I don't have private access to these
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:36 PM <<a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com" target="_blank">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi,Glen,<br>
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Careful. Isn't the formulation "inner world" entirely contradictory? <br>
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Nicholas Thompson<br>
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology<br>
Clark University<br>
<a href="mailto:ThompNickSon2@gmail.com" target="_blank">ThompNickSon2@gmail.com</a><br>
<a href="https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/" target="_blank">https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/</a><br>
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From: Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> On Behalf Of u?l? ?<br>
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 12:50 PM<br>
To: FriAM <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Warring Darwinians for Glen, Steve<br>
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However, I think we can come up with a (maybe someday) testable hypothesis based on hidden states. In principle, if EricC's principle is taken seriously, the inner world of a black box device will be *completely* represented on its surface (ala the holographic
principle). Any information not exhibited by a black box's *behavior* will be lost/random.
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This implies something about the compressibility and information content of the black box's behavior, right?
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On 5/5/20 10:38 AM, Prof David West wrote:<br>
> This does not advance an argument against the possibility of a computer thinking — merely an assertion that "behavior" is not a valid basis upon which to argue that they do.<br>
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