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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Jon, <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I predict that Eric is going to insist that behavior is necessarily at an instant. But carrying this principle out to its logical conclusion, I am not sure that being dead is not a behavior, or the limit of a behavior. Think for a moment about the baby rabbit that plays dead to escape the attentions of your cat. Playing dead is a behavior that spans time and includes becoming dead-like and seeming to come to life again. Let’s see what Eric actually says. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>N<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Nicholas Thompson<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Clark University<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:ThompNickSon2@gmail.com">ThompNickSon2@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/">https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Friam <friam-bounces@redfish.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jon Zingale<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 5, 2020 9:21 PM<br><b>To:</b> friam@redfish.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] Movement vs. Behavior, and what's in the Black Box<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>Eric,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>I love that you brought <i>Weekend at Bernie's</i> into the discussion,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>wow, the 80's. I am not sure we <i>must</i> all agree that Bernie or<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>the dead duck or the marionette are <i>just</i> moving because we may<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>want to allow for transitions between domains of definition.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>Of course, we <i>can</i> all agree if you wish to fix some domain.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>Still, the live duck may be in a coma and opening the marionette<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>may be necessary to rule out a mechanism. Even as Bernie is<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>manipulated or as Tina fails to recognize Bernie as dead, his<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>body continues to behave. Perhaps even <i>just</i> his gut fauna.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>Is it that we define behavior so that we can distinguish it from<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>just</span></i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'> moving? I could be ok with that as a starting point.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>Jonathan Zingale<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>