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<p class="MsoNormal">Here\u2019s what I expect will probably happen.&nbsp;&nbsp; The PANDEMIC will be declared over, like Mission Accomplished with W.&nbsp;&nbsp; There will be a slower burn until fall, and then it will accelerate again.&nbsp;&nbsp; But people will be acclimate to the death
 rate, like they acclimate to gun violence.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Unemployment and homelessness will soar and be persistent.&nbsp; &nbsp;Suicides will go up, and be normalized. &nbsp;&nbsp;Meanwhile, people with the means will self-isolate and be the first to get access to antiviral treatments.&nbsp;
 Out in the blood and muck, herd immunity will begin to emerge in at risk populations.&nbsp;&nbsp; The U.S. will continue to have high prevalence compared to other countries. History will look back on this as a Chernobyl moment, where the prestige of the United States
 fell to Asia.&nbsp; &nbsp;And a second term of Trump will ensure it.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Friam &lt;friam-bounces@redfish.com&gt; on behalf of Prof David West &lt;profwest@fastmail.fm&gt;<br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group &lt;friam@redfish.com&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 8:25 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>&quot;friam@redfish.com&quot; &lt;friam@redfish.com&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [FRIAM] the end of the pandemic<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Steve,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Yes the subject line is click-bait. In the body of the message I made a distinction between the disease pandemic and the perceived PANDEMIC. The latter will go away whether or not the disease
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">The metrics for the latter would include increased traffic to websites like the Mathematica Individual COVID Risk calculator and less to WHO, CDC, and other overall statistical sites; a noticeable
 shift from personal interest stories about succuming to COVID to ones about succumbing to economic hardship; gaming floors in Las Vegas casinos opening with lots of assurance that gamblers are at no greater risk than when visiting a grocery store; stories
 about death rates moving from the front page to the second page or section; significant increase in lawsuits against restrictions with quick, probably out of court, capitulation by governor's; and the central theme of stories about the pandemic, what the science
 tells, us, whistleblowers, etc will be almost purely political in nature.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Going beyond mid-June, I would predict that you will see &quot;wave crests&quot; in terms of cases and deaths, but not &quot;spikes.&quot; They will be big enough for the &quot;experts&quot; to claim they are right, but not
 big enough to trigger any socio-economic response and most people will regard any reporting of same with cynicism. Any attempt to reimpose lock-downs would likely result in furious resistance and widespread civil disobedience.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, May 12, 2020, at 7:13 PM, Steven A Smith wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre>The COVID-19 pandemic will end, at least in the US, by mid-June, 2020.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ignoring the &quot;bait&quot; that I (and others) took earlier, I'll try to respond to the singular prediction above:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>What means &quot;end&quot;?&nbsp;&nbsp; What is a specific statistic that you believe to indicate that the pandemic has ended?
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<p>From Wikipedia:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#202122;background:white">A&nbsp;</span></span><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#202122;background:white">pandemic</span></b><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#202122;background:white">&nbsp;(from&nbsp;</span></span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek" title="Ancient Greek"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0B0080;background:white">Greek</span></a><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#202122;background:white">&nbsp;\u03c0\u1fb6\u03bd,&nbsp;</span></span><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#202122;background:white">pan</span></i><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#202122;background:white">,
 &quot;all&quot; and&nbsp;\u03b4\u1fc6\u03bc\u03bf\u03c2,&nbsp;</span></span><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#202122;background:white">demos</span></i><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#202122;background:white">,
 &quot;people&quot;) is an&nbsp;</span></span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemic" title="Epidemic"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0B0080;background:white">epidemic</span></a><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#202122;background:white">&nbsp;of&nbsp;</span></span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disease" title="Disease"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0B0080;background:white">disease</span></a><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#202122;background:white">&nbsp;that
 has spread across a large region, for instance multiple&nbsp;</span></span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continents" title="Continents"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0B0080;background:white">continents</span></a><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#202122;background:white">&nbsp;or
 worldwide, affecting a substantial number of people. A widespread&nbsp;</span></span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endemic_(epidemiology)" title="Endemic (epidemiology)"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0B0080;background:white">endemic</span></a><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#202122;background:white">&nbsp;disease
 with a stable number of infected people is not a pandemic. Widespread endemic diseases with a stable number of infected people such as recurrences of&nbsp;</span></span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasonal_influenza" title="Seasonal influenza"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0B0080;background:white">seasonal
 influenza</span></a><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#202122;background:white">&nbsp;are generally excluded as they occur simultaneously in large regions of the globe rather than being spread worldwide.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#202122;background:white">The WHO published THIS description of phases of a pandemic:</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK143061/">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK143061/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><i><span style="color:black;background:white">In the&nbsp;</span></i><b><i><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;color:black;background:white">post-pandemic</span></i></b><i><span style="color:black;background:white">&nbsp;period, influenza
 disease activity will have returned to levels normally seen for seasonal influenza. It is expected that the pandemic virus will behave as a seasonal influenza A virus. At this stage, it is important to maintain surveillance and update pandemic preparedness
 and response plans accordingly. An intensive phase of recovery and evaluation may be required.</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Or maybe some other (measurable) definition?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>- Steve <o:p></o:p></p>
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