<div dir="ltr">Last night I woke up at 4:00 am and had to take a medication. I was very much asleep but also awake enough to think, "If I remember my current dream it will help me go back to sleep" or some similar thought without words. I thought, "Ah, I am dreaming about X". I got up, walked into the bathroom. By the time I raised the cup of water to my lips I had forgotten what "X" was.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 11:43 AM <<a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Glen, Frank, <br>
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Certainly Glen's account is consistent with the facts. Dreams are stories we tell ourselves as we awake that are cast backwards into time. They are like the strange sounds the engine makes when you are trying to get it started on a cold morning. <br>
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You're so aggressively authoritarian. Sheesh. Do you ever admit you might be wrong? Or am I simply "rubbed the wrong way"?<br>
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You seem to minimize the importance of the *additional* measures I mention over and over again like para- and endocrine signalling, hormones, fMRI, etc.<br>
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I am *not* minimizing the content of the dreams. I'm claiming that the content of the *stories* about dreams are not the same as the content of the dreams. I'm further hypothesizing that there may be NO CONTENT to the dreams, only content to the stories told using the dreams as content.<br>
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On 5/20/20 10:07 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote:<br>
> You seem to minimize the importance of the content of dreams which is what most people are interested in. By the way, some people do have recurring dreams especially bad dreams. There can be variations but they are essentially the same dream.<br>
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