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<p class="MsoNormal">It’s because we were ruined. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Thus Amateur</p>
<p>"<span style="color: rgb(32, 33, 34); font-family: sans-serif;
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!important; float: none;">Historically, the amateur was
considered to be the ideal balance between pure intent, open
mind, and the interest or passion for a subject."</span></p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur</a></p>
<p>It feels like a conflict of interest for a "fine artist" for
example to try to make a living as a "commercial artist".... the
tools, techniques, and skills may have a lot of overlap, but I
think one type of intention/motivation/constraint interferes with
the other. <br>
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<p>In contrast on this (now bent) thread, Marcel Duchamp stated
(authoritatively?!):</p>
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display: inline !important; float: none;">“All in all, the
creative act is not performed by the artist alone; the spectator
brings the work in contact with the external world by
deciphering and interpreting its inner qualifications and thus
adds his contribution to the creative act,”<span> </span></span>
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<p>Many creatives (visual artists, writers, and more obviously
performing artists) have agreed with this... the audience
"participation" if not "response" is key to their "completion"...
I don't know if this maps onto "closure" in CS, but maybe.<br>
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<p>- Steve<br>
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