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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>C’mon, guys. Nick will only say that talk– even of the most vacant kind -- has effects that flapping the gums does not. Please let’s not make me stupider than I already am. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>n<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Nicholas Thompson<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Clark University<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:ThompNickSon2@gmail.com"><span style='color:#0563C1'>ThompNickSon2@gmail.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/"><span style='color:#0563C1'>https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Friam <friam-bounces@redfish.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Frank Wimberly<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 7, 2020 3:49 PM<br><b>To:</b> The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] millenarianism<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>What Nick will say is that the lip flapping is the concept or the <a href="http://feeling.to">feeling.to</a> which I say "So you didn't feel or think them before you spoke? BS and you know it."<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 3:44 PM uǝlƃ <span style='font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif'>☣</span> <<a href="mailto:gepropella@gmail.com">gepropella@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>Well-said. My guess is that Nick can find falsifying evidence of his strawman rendering of the position. But I sincerely doubt he can falsify his steelman of it, were he to be so gracious as to form a steelman.<br><br>On 6/7/20 12:20 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:<br>> Speaker End<br>> <br>> Concept or Feeling<br>> |<br>> Flapping Lips<br>> |<br>> Ear<br>> |<br>> Similar (it is hoped) concept or Feeling<br>> <br>> Listener End<br>> <br>> <br>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 12:37 PM <<a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com" target="_blank">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com" target="_blank">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>> I was trying to retire gracefully from the field, but you are blocking my retreat. I actually can think of a hundred arguments against the proposition that “talking is just flapping gums” and a hundred experiments to disprove it.<br>-- <br><span style='font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif'>☣</span> uǝlƃ<br><br> .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. .<br>FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<br>Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 <a href="http://bit.ly/virtualfriam" target="_blank">bit.ly/virtualfriam</a><br>un/subscribe <a href="http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com" target="_blank">http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com</a><br>archives: <a href="http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/FRIAM-COMIC" target="_blank">http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/<br>FRIAM-COMIC</a> <a href="http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/</a> <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Frank Wimberly<br>140 Calle Ojo Feliz<br>Santa Fe, NM 87505<br>505 670-9918<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>