<div dir="ltr">Much better. Most of my family are Confederate descendants. Some are progressive liberals, some are committed Christians and Trump supporters. I tend to avoid the latter.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 4:10 PM Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Trump made a direct appeal to racists and other people of backward sensibilities in this country and it worked. The challenge is not to pacify them, play politics with them, or find a way to forgive them. The challenge is to make it
abundantly clear what they are about and isolate them. This may mean deepening the divisions and burning some bridges along the way. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Clear enough?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> on behalf of Frank Wimberly <<a href="mailto:wimberly3@gmail.com" target="_blank">wimberly3@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, June 12, 2020 at 2:56 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [FRIAM] tactics and strategy - from vFRIAM 6/12 - attention glen<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">That sounds like irony (doh). What are you actually saying, Marcus?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jun 12, 2020, 3:54 PM Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com" target="_blank">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ah yes, the views of the racists and traitorous confederates..<u></u><u></u></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> on behalf of Prof David West <<a href="mailto:profwest@fastmail.fm" target="_blank">profwest@fastmail.fm</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, June 12, 2020 at 2:47 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[FRIAM] tactics and strategy - from vFRIAM 6/12 - attention glen</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">context:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">near the end of vFRIAM, SteveG argued that Science's denigration and dismissal of God and religious sensibilities in general was both
arrogant (on the part of Science) and divisive / counter-productive. In an attempt to steelman SteveG's position I generalized the argument and made the assertion that this element of the Liberal Democratic strategy to defeat Trump was not only counter-productive,
but <b>extremely stupid</b>. I also expanded the scope of SteveG's argument away from simply religion but to all the views that might be held by those in Hillary's "basket of deplorables."</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">glen wishes to 'discuss' my assertion.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">How to proceed? from the general to eventual specifics/particulars? who goes first?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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