<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Actually, my point is that we act as if we believe we have free will. That was intended to support Nick's claim that everyone seems to believe things science denies. </div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font><u style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16.5px;line-height:20px"><br></u></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font><u style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16.5px;line-height:20px"> </u></font><span style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16.5px;line-height:24.75px"> </span>-- Russ Abbott <br>Professor, Computer Science<br>California State University, Los Angeles<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 5:34 PM Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sure, ok. I don’t know what any of this has to do with Russ’ lecture on free will.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I was just responding in the affirmative to the apparently underlying question of if we are all reactive machines. Of course we are. While the reaction could be complicated, or the stimulus could be communicated over a faulty channel
and thus result in a response that is inappropriate, how *<b>could</b>* it be any other way? I didn’t say anything about the taxonomy of machines being limited or any individual instance being simplistic. That’s just a straw man.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> on behalf of Steve Smith <<a href="mailto:sasmyth@swcp.com" target="_blank">sasmyth@swcp.com</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 4:30 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>><br>
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<p>playing "the Imp(uter)" I think that is similar to what Glen has asserted/suggested/implied/offered?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 6/14/20 4:45 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p>Steve writes:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>< To some (many?) that might be what our collective "rattling on" looks/sounds like. ><u></u><u></u></p>
<p>I’m claiming all conversations are like that. Maybe the agents have a little more state, and the transactions are less frequent. Same.<u></u><u></u></p>
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