<div dir="auto">In the paper by Glymour I mentioned the point of view (not necessarily his) that we are zombies who tell our bodies to go thataway a few milliseconds after they've already taken off in that direction.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">This is one of the steelman theories of mental causation he discusses. If I'm using the term correctly.<br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">---<br>Frank C. Wimberly<br>140 Calle Ojo Feliz, <br>Santa Fe, NM 87505<br><br>505 670-9918<br>Santa Fe, NM</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 3:20 PM glen\u2209\u2102 <<a href="mailto:gepropella@gmail.com">gepropella@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Exactly! If humans have free will, we can program a machine to have it too (someday, anyway). And since we don't know how to *construct* free will and the evidence against it is accumulating, it's reasonable to claim it doesn't exist and the burden is increasingly on those who believe in it to make their case.<br>
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But note that the construction I spitballed does NOT define free will as spontaneous. It's cumulative. In fact, that construction rejects the idea that free will is spontaneous in any way.<br>
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On 6/16/20 1:39 PM, <a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br>
> Yes. I don't think Nick is every going to write such a paper (as opposed, say, to participating along with a bunch of you in writing such a book). However, as I work through the correspondence of the last week (Gawd what a splatter), I have yet to see any support for the idea that there is any fundamental reason why a computer could not be constructed to exhibit any free will that humans have.<br>
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> It begins to seem to me that "free will" and "emergence" are the same sort of concept and likely to die by the same sword. Once you define "free will" as that which is "spontaneous" (i.e., not explained by anything), you have to prepare yourself for the moment when it is explained.<br>
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