<div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:georgia,palatino,serif;font-size:18px;background-color:rgb(252,252,252)">...mathematical real numbers are not physically relevant...</span><div dir="auto"><font color="#333333" face="georgia, palatino, serif">N. Gisin</font></div><div dir="auto"><font color="#333333" face="georgia, palatino, serif"><br></font></div><div dir="auto"><font color="#333333" face="georgia, palatino, serif"><br></font></div><div dir="auto"><font color="#333333" face="georgia, palatino, serif">Physics is not relevant to the real numbers.<br></font>F. Wimberly<br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">---<br>Frank C. Wimberly<br>140 Calle Ojo Feliz, <br>Santa Fe, NM 87505<br><br>505 670-9918<br>Santa Fe, NM</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 6:49 PM Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">I like this intuition: <a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10670-019-00165-8" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10670-019-00165-8</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> on behalf of "<a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>><br>
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<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 11:59 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">friam@redfish.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [FRIAM] alternative response<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Gary, <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is this what others meant earlier by “truncation”?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Nicholas Thompson<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> <b>On Behalf Of
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 17, 2020 12:10 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] alternative response<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If I am honest, which I at least usually try to be, most beliefs that I have are only supported by the amount of effort I'm willing to put into the endeavor of supporting them. I can rationalize this by saying that nobody's brain, not even
Einstein's, has (or had) the capacity to calculate and keep track of all the assumptions necessary to support our beliefs. I do believe this is true, even though it is more the result of my simply getting tired of or bored with trying to do so. Maybe this
has a lot to do with why people have "faith", they just get tired of trying to figure it all out, and it is so much easier to accept what a large group of your peers tells you. I think true wisdom starts when one realizes those limitations.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 12:44 PM Jon Zingale <<a href="mailto:jonzingale@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jonzingale@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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Spoiler alert, there is no *how best to think*. You say random, Gary says<br>
determined. Until you investigate the consequences of each you can't even<br>
know whether or not you are actually developing the same model ( like with<br>
the Church-Turing thesis). At the end of the day, deciding whether or not<br>
the universe is determined, indeterminate, random, etc.. is decidedly<br>
uninteresting. I try to hold 50 conflicting ontological commitments before<br>
breakfast. Alas, it appears that we have no interest in working with the<br>
commitments others make. In an effort to contribute to the banality I<br>
propose 2401 or perhaps whatever number you would construct the fifth time<br>
you follow Cantor's diagonal argument!<br>
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