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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank goodness that academia is not overspecialized! <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Friam <friam-bounces@redfish.com> on behalf of Frank Wimberly <wimberly3@gmail.com><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 6:18 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [FRIAM] alternative response<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#333333;background:#FCFCFC">...mathematical real numbers are not physically relevant...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#333333">N. Gisin</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#333333">Physics is not relevant to the real numbers.<br>
</span>F. Wimberly<o:p></o:p></p>
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Frank C. Wimberly<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 6:49 PM Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I like this intuition:
<a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10670-019-00165-8" target="_blank">
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10670-019-00165-8</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> on behalf of "<a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com" target="_blank">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com" target="_blank">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 11:59 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [FRIAM] alternative response</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Gary,
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Is this what others meant earlier by “truncation”?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">N<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Nicholas Thompson<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Clark University<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a href="mailto:ThompNickSon2@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563C1">ThompNickSon2@gmail.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b> Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Gary Schiltz<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 17, 2020 12:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] alternative response<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">If I am honest, which I at least usually try to be, most beliefs that I have are only supported by the amount of effort I'm willing to put into the endeavor of supporting them.
I can rationalize this by saying that nobody's brain, not even Einstein's, has (or had) the capacity to calculate and keep track of all the assumptions necessary to support our beliefs. I do believe this is true, even though it is more the result of my simply
getting tired of or bored with trying to do so. Maybe this has a lot to do with why people have "faith", they just get tired of trying to figure it all out, and it is so much easier to accept what a large group of your peers tells you. I think true wisdom
starts when one realizes those limitations.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 12:44 PM Jon Zingale <<a href="mailto:jonzingale@gmail.com" target="_blank">jonzingale@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Spoiler alert, there is no *how best to think*. You say random, Gary says<br>
determined. Until you investigate the consequences of each you can't even<br>
know whether or not you are actually developing the same model ( like with<br>
the Church-Turing thesis). At the end of the day, deciding whether or not<br>
the universe is determined, indeterminate, random, etc.. is decidedly<br>
uninteresting. I try to hold 50 conflicting ontological commitments before<br>
breakfast. Alas, it appears that we have no interest in working with the<br>
commitments others make. In an effort to contribute to the banality I<br>
propose 2401 or perhaps whatever number you would construct the fifth time<br>
you follow Cantor's diagonal argument!<br>
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