<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="auto">I was asking me the same as Nick. We experience a global pandemic and I am living in a big city of 3.8 million inhabitants and I don't know anybody who really has it. I have asked our local newspaper salesman who meets a lot of people and he says he knows people who have it, but only have little or no symptoms. Our cleaning lady (which helps us cleaning our apartment) is from Chile, she said her whole family in Santiago has the virus because they all live together in very small rooms where the virus can easily spread. Both of her grandparents have died from it. In Berlin we have overall only 8000 infected people, which is low compared to the overall population. Luckily.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The biggest recent SARSCoV2 outbreak in Germany was at a meat factory: low 10°C temperatures increase droplet formation and water condensation, no distance between workers and poor working conditions all contributed to the outbreak</div><div dir="auto">https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-53177628</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In America as a whole the situation looks really concerning. Chris Hayes argues on MSNBC that the government has failed and Donald Trump should resign as president</div><div dir="auto">https://youtu.be/oB4N27evVwY</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-J.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000" dir="auto"><!-- originalMessage --><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Frank Wimberly <wimberly3@gmail.com> </div><div>Date: 6/27/20 18:41 (GMT+01:00) </div><div>To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> </div><div>Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Nick Thompson </div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr">>I don't even know anybody, personally, who has told me that they <b><i>know anybody</i></b> who has had the disease. <br><div><br></div><div>One of my high-school classmates (a few weeks older than I) died of Covid-19 on April 30.</div></div><br dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 10:23 AM <<a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_-1976574797812750317WordSection1"><p class="gmail-m_-1976574797812750317MsoPlainText">David,</p><p class="gmail-m_-1976574797812750317MsoPlainText"><a href="mailto:nthompson@clarku.edu" target="_blank">nthompson@clarku.edu</a> works just fine or <a href="mailto:ThompNickSon2@gmail.com" target="_blank">ThompNickSon2@gmail.com</a> . </p><p class="gmail-m_-1976574797812750317MsoPlainText">I am really, REALLY sorry but I don't think we should meet. I just told my "pod" that I think that, with the rising cases in neighboring states, Santa Fe has started to get more dangerous again, and that we should we should be even more careful than we have been. (Rural Western Massachusetts got a lot of cases from "vacationing" New Yorkers in March.) With talk of a vaccine by the beginning of next year, it just seems stupid to take any risks whatsoever. </p><p class="MsoNormal">It's not that long. In the meantime, let's continue to interact electronically. We could do our own zoom session. You will point out how "notional" the hazard is, and I will have to admit that I actually have no first-hand experience with the disease, what-so-ever. I don't even know anybody, personally, who has told me that they <b><i>know anybody</i></b> who has had the disease. It is still, for me, a media event. A cultural meme. Pray God it remains that way. </p><p class="MsoNormal">So let's plan to meet "on the other side.". </p><p class="MsoNormal">You take care!</p><p class="MsoNormal">Nick <u></u><u></u></p><p class="gmail-m_-1976574797812750317MsoPlainText">Nicholas Thompson<u></u><u></u></p><p class="gmail-m_-1976574797812750317MsoPlainText">Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology<u></u><u></u></p><p class="gmail-m_-1976574797812750317MsoPlainText">Clark University<u></u><u></u></p><p class="gmail-m_-1976574797812750317MsoPlainText"><a href="mailto:ThompNickSon2@gmail.com" target="_blank">ThompNickSon2@gmail.com</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="gmail-m_-1976574797812750317MsoPlainText"><a href="https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/" target="_blank">https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="gmail-m_-1976574797812750317MsoPlainText"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="gmail-m_-1976574797812750317MsoPlainText"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="gmail-m_-1976574797812750317MsoPlainText"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="gmail-m_-1976574797812750317MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<br>From: Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> On Behalf Of Prof David West<br>Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 8:10 AM<br>To: <a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a><br>Subject: [FRIAM] Nick Thompson</p><p class="gmail-m_-1976574797812750317MsoPlainText"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="gmail-m_-1976574797812750317MsoPlainText">Nick,<u></u><u></u></p><p class="gmail-m_-1976574797812750317MsoPlainText"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="gmail-m_-1976574797812750317MsoPlainText">Your Earthlink email address (the only other one I have) bounced. 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