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<p class="MsoNormal">There’s this..<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> https://sherlock.bio/crispr-sars-cov-2/<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">..which isn’t at-home, but also doesn’t require an expensive machine.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Friam <friam-bounces@redfish.com> on behalf of "thompnickson2@gmail.com" <thompnickson2@gmail.com><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 1:05 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' <friam@redfish.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [FRIAM] Virus Cases<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Gary I don’t know. I think the person on the list who reads most widely is Glen. Perhaps he will comment.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Nicholas Thompson<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Clark University<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Friam <friam-bounces@redfish.com> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Gary Schiltz<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, June 27, 2020 1:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] Virus Cases<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My question is about the knowledge, and state of the science/technology. That is to say, what is the state of knowledge in the medical science community to develop such tests? Would we be a month away? A year? More?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 2:11 PM <<a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Gary,
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Don’t look to the US for any inspiration on testing. There are still parts where getting a test is not easy.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Nicholas Thompson<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Clark University<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b> Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Gary Schiltz<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, June 27, 2020 11:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] Virus Cases<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I wonder what the prospects are for Covid19 testing "entirely at home" in the near future? I'm thinking something like home pregnancy tests or glucose monitoring tests, where you
don't have to send a sample away. Such a beast would be especially helpful in the third world, many parts of which don't have any kind of postal service. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 12:17 PM Jochen Fromm <<a href="mailto:jofr@cas-group.net" target="_blank">jofr@cas-group.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I was asking me the same as Nick. We experience a global pandemic and I am living in a big city of 3.8 million inhabitants and I don't know anybody who really has it. I have asked
our local newspaper salesman who meets a lot of people and he says he knows people who have it, but only have little or no symptoms. Our cleaning lady (which helps us cleaning our apartment) is from Chile, she said her whole family in Santiago has the virus
because they all live together in very small rooms where the virus can easily spread. Both of her grandparents have died from it. In Berlin we have overall only 8000 infected people, which is low compared to the overall population. Luckily.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The biggest recent SARSCoV2 outbreak in Germany was at a meat factory: low 10°C temperatures increase droplet formation and water condensation, no distance between workers and poor
working conditions all contributed to the outbreak<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">In America as a whole the situation looks really concerning. Chris Hayes argues on MSNBC that the government has failed and Donald Trump should resign as president<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">From: Frank Wimberly <<a href="mailto:wimberly3@gmail.com" target="_blank">wimberly3@gmail.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Date: 6/27/20 18:41 (GMT+01:00)
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>I don't even know anybody, personally, who has told me that they <b><i>know anybody</i></b> who has had the disease. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">One of my high-school classmates (a few weeks older than I) died of Covid-19 on April 30.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 10:23 AM <<a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com" target="_blank">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>David,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><a href="mailto:nthompson@clarku.edu" target="_blank">nthompson@clarku.edu</a> works just fine or
<a href="mailto:ThompNickSon2@gmail.com" target="_blank">ThompNickSon2@gmail.com</a> . <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I am really, REALLY sorry but I don't think we should meet. I just told my "pod" that I think that, with the rising cases in neighboring states, Santa Fe has started to get more dangerous again, and that we should we should be even more careful than we
have been. (Rural Western Massachusetts got a lot of cases from "vacationing" New Yorkers in March.) With talk of a vaccine by the beginning of next year, it just seems stupid to take any risks whatsoever. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">It's not that long. In the meantime, let's continue to interact electronically. We could do our own zoom session. You will point out how "notional" the hazard is, and I will
have to admit that I actually have no first-hand experience with the disease, what-so-ever. I don't even know anybody, personally, who has told me that they
<b><i>know anybody</i></b> who has had the disease. It is still, for me, a media event. A cultural meme. Pray God it remains that way. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">So let's plan to meet "on the other side.". <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">You take care!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Nicholas Thompson<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Clark University<o:p></o:p></p>
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From: Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> On Behalf Of Prof David West<br>
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 8:10 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a><br>
Subject: [FRIAM] Nick Thompson<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Nick,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Your Earthlink email address (the only other one I have) bounced. I am in Santa Fe for a couple of days, until July 2.<o:p></o:p></p>
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