<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Nick,<br>Let me only say, having some personal experience of the judge in question, that English is not the first, or even second, language of many superior court judges in India.<br></div>in my view, the original judgment under appeal is far better reading for its clarity of reasoning, especially paras 72 to 78<br><a href="https://indiankanoon.org/doc/135895592/">https://indiankanoon.org/doc/135895592/</a><br></div>rgds<br></div>Sarbajit<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 10:39 PM <<a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_-8745356377139301931WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">Sarbajit, <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Can you provide an exegesis of this wonderfully opaque passage from the judgement?<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="gmail-m_-8745356377139301931quotation">It happens in law that footprints of one concept fall in the territory of other but that does not mean that the former should be restricted.."<sup id="gmail-m_-8745356377139301931cite_ref-:0_3-5"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rameshwari_Photocopy_Service_shop_copyright_case#cite_note-:0-3" target="_blank">[3]</a></sup><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">I suspect that this is a translation of some proverb which has richness not rendered in the translation. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Nick <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Nicholas Thompson<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Clark University<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:ThompNickSon2@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">ThompNickSon2@gmail.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/</span></a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;border-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Sarbajit Roy<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, July 5, 2020 10:21 AM<br><b>To:</b> The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] Illegal copies of your book<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">Dear Gillian<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">It's not an unpopular opinion at all.<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>The High Court at New Delhi, India considered these issues and said it's perfectly legal for a teacher to PHOTOCOPY or REPRODUCE chapters of over-priced/unaffordable/expensive foreign textbooks for the benefit of their students, AND that no royalty is to be paid to the book publishers.<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">The exceptionally well reasoned decision was upheld by the Supreme Court of India after the book publishers withdrew their appeals.<br><br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rameshwari_Photocopy_Service_shop_copyright_case" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rameshwari_Photocopy_Service_shop_copyright_case</a><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">So if you know anybody needing photocopies (2 cents per page of expensive books accessible to our vast library of PDFs and DJVUs, I would be happy to have them as my student ;-)<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">Sarbajit Roy<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">New Delhi, India<u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 7:24 AM Gillian Densmore <<a href="mailto:gil.densmore@gmail.com" target="_blank">gil.densmore@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);border-style:none none none solid;border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><p class="MsoNormal">I'll put this out their as I suspect a unpopular opinion. It's be been my unfortunate experience teachers want ridiculously expensive specialty books. The most egregious was some prof for a management class that thought it'd be a good idea to drop 700 dollars on a book. Most of the class except some brown-noser agreed. He did EVENtUALLY relent to do case-studies inlue of the book. IMO I got more out of reading and writing about actually cases of successful and unsuccessful management from real life than a 700 dollar book<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">When people wonder why books get pirated. That's probably why.<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 6:03 PM Edward Angel <<a href="mailto:angel@cs.unm.edu" target="_blank">angel@cs.unm.edu</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);border-style:none none none solid;border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><p class="MsoNormal">Yes. libgen is a mirror site for <a href="http://lingen.io" target="_blank">libgen.io</a> that has everything on it. It gets taken down every once in a while. They lost a suit from the publishers but being located in Eastern Europe that doesn’t help. When I first went to the site, it asked me to turn off my add blocker so THEY could make some money. Then I looked at their donation tab and the only way to donate was via bitcoin or an Eastern European credit card.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Students tell me they all know about the site.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Ed<u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">_______________________<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><br>Ed Angel<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)<br>Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico<br><br>1017 Sierra Pinon<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Santa Fe, NM 87501<br>505-984-0136 (home) <a href="mailto:angel@cs.unm.edu" target="_blank">angel@cs.unm.edu</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">505-453-4944 (cell) <a href="http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel" target="_blank">http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Jul 4, 2020, at 5:58 PM, Roger Frye <<a href="mailto:frye.roger@gmail.com" target="_blank">frye.roger@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Ed,<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">FYI: The latest edition that I see on the Israeli version of the pirate site (<a href="http://libgen.is/" target="_blank">libgen.is</a>) is the 7th.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">-Roger<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal">- .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. .<br>FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<br>Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 <a href="http://bit.ly/virtualfriam" target="_blank">bit.ly/virtualfriam</a><br>un/subscribe <a href="http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com" target="_blank">http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com</a><br>archives: <a href="http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/" target="_blank">http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/</a><br>FRIAM-COMIC <a href="http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/</a> <u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal">- .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. .<br>FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<br>Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 <a href="http://bit.ly/virtualfriam" target="_blank">bit.ly/virtualfriam</a><br>un/subscribe <a href="http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com" target="_blank">http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com</a><br>archives: <a href="http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/" target="_blank">http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/</a><br>FRIAM-COMIC <a href="http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/</a> <u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div></div></div>- .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. .<br>
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