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<p>I have 8 chickens in my courtyard which is roughly 10.5x10.5
meters (varas since this landscape was first surveyed by the
Spanish). Once I showed them (when we first released them) that
the grass in a .5x.5 meter (vara) square was tasty they proceeded
to mow the entire 10.5x10.5 yard down nicely. I don't know if
this qualifies since the remaining ~400 squares of grass were not
identical (mathematically) to the one I introduced them to, but
from my idiosyncratic point of view, I had "mowed" the whole lawn
by showing the chickens the one square?</p>
<p>Of course, the chickens didn't need showing and would have
figured it out for themselves (as they figured out how tasty
virtually everything in my gardens were too), and they left the
longer, tougher grass-stems, moving their focus to any and all
tender shoots the grass root-clumps decide to splurt out every
day.</p>
<p>Have we agreed on what a "square" is and by whose "authority" we
declare that we are talking about the same description? I don't
think that nit has been picked over yet. And are we doing it in
Cartesian or spherical or ellipsoidal coordinates? I'm not sure
if there is a conventional "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moss%27s_Egg">ovoid</a>"
coordinate system but my guess is that the chicken's would prefer
those. And I don't think these chickens care for analytic or
computational paradigms, they just want to eat, play grab-ass with
the squirrels and jays invading their territory and lay single
cells the size of a chicken-egg for me to steal and treat as my
personal property to consume, sell, trade or gift. I should have
gone for the golden (or palladium) chickens instead methinks... <br>
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<p>If we can't even square a square, how can we expect to square a
circle, or more interestingly tessellate a sphere uniformly?
Let's change the value of Pi to 3.0 and deal with the resulting
distortion of space later.</p>
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<p>Carry On, <br>
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<p> - Sieze<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/23/20 3:41 PM, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ wrote:<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">We used to have this argument all the time about the apt use of relational vs. OO databases. As in Ed's conception, the same square can be associated with multiple locations. Then to update all the renderings of that 1 square, say, change its color from red to blue, all you need do is change the object and all its renderings change as a result. That's pretty handy.
But what if you really did want multiple squares so that changing the color of this square over here didn't change the color of that square over there? You might want "square" to be a class but have color be an instance property so you could change each square to a different color. Or you might even have a concept of *scope* so that all the squares in a neighborhood changed, but no those far away ... or only the squares that are also rotated 90° (invisibly) would change color, but those that haven't been rotated stay whatever color they are.
To my mind, computationalists tend to think like the latter (collections of instances) whereas analysts tend to think like the former ("normalized" or "unified"). I'm agnostic and like both teams. But when I see one team winning, I tend to traitoriously jump from one side to the other.
On 7/23/20 2:26 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">What?
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 2:56 PM uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ <<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gepropella@gmail.com">gepropella@gmail.com</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gepropella@gmail.com"><mailto:gepropella@gmail.com></a>> wrote:
Ha! No way. If that were true, then to mow my lawn, I'd only have to mow the little part in the corner and voilá all the other patches would also be mowed.
On 7/23/20 1:52 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
> "is the same sized square, e.g. at {0.5,0.5}, the same square as the one at {10.5-10,10.5-10}"
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> If you agree that 10.5 - 10 = 0.5 then same square, different name.
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