<div dir="auto">I am unfamiliar with almost all your allusions with the exception of "El Jardín de los Senderos que se Bifurcan" which I read in Spanish class many years ago.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Are the rest of you readers familiar with NotP, etc.?<br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">---<br>Frank C. Wimberly<br>140 Calle Ojo Feliz, <br>Santa Fe, NM 87505<br><br>505 670-9918<br>Santa Fe, NM</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 4, 2020, 9:25 PM Steve Smith <<a href="mailto:sasmyth@swcp.com">sasmyth@swcp.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>This discussion of alternate skinning and in particular the Mad
      Hatter's Tea Party triggers:<br>
    </p>
    <p>I am just now (re)visiting Robert Heinlein by reading his
      posthumous "fork" of his classic Number of the Beast, <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/49241808-the-pursuit-of-the-pankera" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Pursuit
        of the Pankera</a>.   The PotP was apparently pulled together
      with <a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/612713154/robert-heinleins-unpublished-novel" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">funding
        from a Kickstarter</a>!  In fact it is more likely that NotB is
      the "fork" since the PotP material was apparently complete by 1977
      and NOTB was published in 1980.  As appropriate (maybe even
      somehow intended?) the NotB and PotP diverge about 20% into the
      material which is armatured around the conceit of the protaganist
      having invented a "continua" device capable of "sideslipping"
      across the (6^6)^6<span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline!important;float:none"><span> </span></span><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style="display:none;overflow:hidden;width:1px;height:1px;opacity:0;font-size:16.52px"><u></u><u></u><u></u>{\displaystyle
                (6^{6})^{6}(6^6jjj<u></u><u></u><u></u></span></span><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline!important;float:none"><span></span>or ~10^27 members of the
        multiverse (not 6^6^6 or ~10 followed by 1M 0s </span><span><span></span><span><span style="display:none;overflow:hidden;width:1px;height:1px;opacity:0;font-size:14.868px"><u></u><u></u><u></u>{\displaystyle 6^{6^{6}}}<u></u><u></u><u></u></span></span>)</span></p>
    <p><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline!important;float:none"></span></p>
    <p><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline!important;float:none"> It is suggested that this represents
        somehow the countable but huge continua of possible worlds that
        the human imagination is capable of creating, and *therefore*
        includes myriad variants on those described in various bits of
        classic literature... including notable "worlds" such as
        Barsoom, Oz, and the Red Queen's domain other-side of the
        looking glass.   A dual, perhaps, of Borges' "Library of Babel",
        related to his "Garden of Forking Paths", each applying an
        allegorical treatment to the "many worlds" interpretation of
        QM.  This also is nicely alluded to with Jasper Fforde's
        protaganist <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thursday_Next" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Thursday
          Next</a> who is a "literary detective" pursuing crimes in the
        interstices of the literary multiverse where all of the
        characters (and settings) from literature live and go about
        "normal lives" while they are not busy appearing in their
        various novels.<br>
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    <p><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline!important;float:none">I'm finding Heinlein's preachy
        characters and prose excruciatingly painful...   something I had
        a hint of in my youth when he was inspiring me toward his
        human-chauvanist (and confoundingly misogynistic, in spite of
        some very inspired female protaganists) Libertarian views...   
        but I'm slogging through it anyway,  a bit of a visit to my
        misspent youth and perhaps some stubborn attempt to be sure I've
        read all of his published works.  It is somewhat useful for me
        as I try to make sense of the current (and all-time?) Right
        continuum (whackadoodle to centrist)...  a revisiting to my own
        roots in such I suppose.    I am left to wonder if Heinlein in
        his relative (or disturbed?) genius might tell entirely
        different stories if he understood the (unintended/unexpected)
        consequences of the manifest hubris of our human-chauvanist
        culture/industry/economy as it unfolded toward the end of his
        life into the present?</span></p>
    <p><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline!important;float:none">ramble,</span></p>
    <p><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline!important;float:none"> - Steve<br>
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      <span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline!important;float:none"></span><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline!important;float:none"></span></p>
    <div>On 8/4/20 4:57 PM, cody dooderson
      wrote:<br>
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        <div>Could one level be a tea party level? Maybe Glenn Beck
          could be the Mad Hatter?</div>
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            <div dir="ltr">Cody Smith</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 3:19 PM
          <<a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>>
          wrote:<br>
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        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Could
          each "shot" be a penny given to the Biden campaign?<br>
          <br>
          Nick<br>
          <br>
          Nicholas Thompson<br>
          Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology<br>
          Clark University<br>
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          -----Original Message-----<br>
          From: Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>>
          On Behalf Of jon zingale<br>
          Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 12:46 PM<br>
          To: <a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">friam@redfish.com</a><br>
          Subject: Re: [FRIAM] OK. That's funny.<br>
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          Nick, you have just outlined the dream. The hope was to sell
          these at 99<br>
          cents per download. The market for such disposable
          distractions appears to<br>
          be firmly established, and potentially profitable. Further, to
          pull a<br>
          variant of a Moby, redirecting the profits to one campaign or
          another could<br>
          potentially make a change.<br>
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