<div dir="ltr">If I had stayed at Bell Labs I might have learned Erlang.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 9:28 AM Bob Ballance <<a href="mailto:ballance@swcp.com">ballance@swcp.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">At the first conference on Object-oriented Frameworks for Scientific Programming, the room divided more or less down the center. On one side, attendees said “I love overloaded operators in C++ because I can make my code look just like the physics equations.” On the other side, attendees said “I love overloaded operators in C++ because I can make my code look just like FORTRAN.”<div><br></div><div>These days, I focus on Elixir and Erlang, both functional languages that share the same virtual machine so they are interoperable. Elixir has a gentler syntax, but Erlang has the more powerful libraries. Erlang also has a pretty well-developed interface into C, since they originally used it to control telephone switches.</div><div><br></div><div>… bob</div><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Aug 9, 2020, at 8:56 AM, Roger Frye <<a href="mailto:frye.roger@gmail.com" target="_blank">frye.roger@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr">Galileo wrote in Italian in <i>Opera Il Saggiatore</i><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:16px">[The universe] cannot be read until we have learnt the language and become familiar with the characters in which it is written. It is written in mathematical language, and the letters are triangles, circles and other geometrical figures, without which means it is humanly impossible to comprehend a single word.</span> </div></blockquote></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 10:55 PM Russell Standish <<a href="mailto:lists@hpcoders.com.au" target="_blank">lists@hpcoders.com.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Sat, Aug 08, 2020 at 11:13:36AM -0600, Prof David West wrote:<br>
> <br>
> For specific domains, a language that allows easy, straightforward expression<br>
> of domain concepts is superior. COBOL for business applications, FORTRAN<br>
> (FORTRESS, Guy Steele's parallel FORTRAN) for physics, and some intentional<br>
> DSL's.<br>
<br>
I disagree with Fortran being ideal for Physics - probably some<br>
combination of Python or Julia would be. Actually, I'm hard pressed to<br>
find an obvious niche for Fortran these days - C++ is now a better<br>
language for High Performance Computing applications, for<br>
instance. Fortran has hung around in certain areas for cultural<br>
reasons.<br>
<br>
Can't comment too much about Cobol for business applications, but I<br>
would have thought Java or C# might be more suited.<br>
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