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<div dir="auto">I cringe at the thought of society or its
government forcing or coercing me to do so. <br>
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<p>I'm really just stirring the pot here. I agree with your spirit
entirely, nevertheless, the US military once included cigarettes
and coffee (still do Coffee) in rations, and even issued
Benzadrine for night-missions or long-haul-fatigueing missions.
Who knows what they do nowdays... I understand (way too acutely)
that a citizen in military service is in many ways no longer a
citizen, or temporarily not a full citizen.</p>
<p>I grew up in an era and locale where recreational drug use *was*
prescribed by my (sub) culture. I struggled more than a little
with my own preference to remain (mostly) unaltered through my
young adulthood. I restricted myself to (usually) modest use of
alcohol and caffeine to meet the "ups and downs" of life, but was
often socially denigrated or excluded for not imbibing in the full
range of "whatever was in vogue at the time". I was careful not
to openly judge other's choices in those matters, which muted the
exclusion somewhat, but I felt *very* coerced by the subculture of
the 70's youth and watched more than a few peers fall into one
"hole" or another, although usually only temporarily (blew a
semester or two of college, or a few grade points, or a job, or a
circle of friends, or a spouse). <br>
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<p>I'm not *personally* wound up by the government-mandated (or at
least backed/encouraged) additives like flouride in water systems,
iodine in salt, VitD in milk, etc. ad nauseum. But some are
(quite acutely). I think the use of lead as an anti pre-ignition
additive in gasoline was (at least in retrospect) a horrific crime
against a whole generation (especially those living in dense urban
areas). <br>
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<p>Maybe I should move to the highlands of Ecuador! <grin></p>
<p>- Steve<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I dunno. Do you cringe at taking a
drug that would increase your assertiveness and sexual
interest? Do you cringe at taking a drug that
diminishes non productive rumination and makes you
more proactive? Mind you, I am NOT asking you if you
take such drugs, but whether you cringe at the thought
of taking them. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Oh boy, that's sure to get some
flames going! Even reasonably social beings like
myself cringe at the thought of "people could take a
substance to boost their cooperative, pro-social
behavior." Social engineering writ large. Maybe it
would work in China or other countries that have a
very high opinion of working for the common good,
but I think we're many generations away from such an
idea working in the USA.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 5:09 PM
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