<div dir="auto">Steve,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Did you ever see Ed Bradley's interview of Dylan. The latter is about three years older than I am. I was writing significant code until a few years ago and I can state theorems and definitions that I learned 50+ years ago. I might even be able to prove some of the theorems but...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://youtu.be/m_wAZ02JUtM">https://youtu.be/m_wAZ02JUtM</a><br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">---<br>Frank C. Wimberly<br>140 Calle Ojo Feliz, <br>Santa Fe, NM 87505<br><br>505 670-9918<br>Santa Fe, NM</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 11:43 AM Steve Smith <<a href="mailto:sasmyth@swcp.com">sasmyth@swcp.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Jon-</p>
<p>I would find it fascinating (if possibly/assuredly misleading)
for someone well-schooled in Go Strategy/Tactics and history to
establish a running commentary on the specific moves afoot in our
(national/global) political (socioeconomic) go-board. <br>
</p>
<p>My last foray into Go beyond trying to learn to play casually 10
years ago was during the 1983 CA conference in Los Alamos when
there was a lot of discussion of using CA to construct
Chess/Checkers/Go playing programs. <br>
</p>
<p>I don't remember (nor can find) any papers directly referencing
the subject at that time, and when I tried to follow up on the Go
aspect (in1983), I got sidetracked into Gosper's proto-Hashlife
memoization CA conception... which promised to support "seeding"
such game-players with middle-and end-game "gambits". I don't
even know if that is the right term and bashing through
GoogleSearches only leads me further astray down a multiscale foam
of white-rabbit warrens.</p>
<p>Some of the more interesting vestibules in the maze of
rabbit-warrens:<br>
</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.gambit-project.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Gambit Project:
software tools for game theory</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www-users.cs.york.ac.uk/susan/bib/ss/nonstd/index.htm" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Hashlife,
memoization and entropy <br>
</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Y" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">AlphaGo</a></li>
<li><a href="http://xahlee.info/cmaci/ca/go_cellular_automata.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Go
as Cellular Automata - xah lee</a></li>
<li><a href="http://xahlee.info/math/go_board_variations.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Hexaganol
Go - xah lee</a></li>
<li>...<br>
</li>
</ul>
<p>I am left wondering if some of the recent FriAM maunderings are
not relevant. First level Go strategy involves the tension
between "connection and separation" and literal vs virtual or
potential versions of both which rhymes slantly (I hear?) with the
"cohesion/coupling" discussion, as well as the "epiphenomenon"
discussion and the more background/constant consideration of
"emergence".<br>
</p>
<p>I'm way over my TL;DR limit as usual, but I will tag on that my
own throwdown in CA is a (never realized) foray into an (k-1)^2
decomposition of space (vs k-d/quad-oct-tree partitioning).. the
key to the concept is to maximize redundancy and coverage of
pattern space vs space-efficient decomposition. I believe it has
a play in the generalization of Guerin's dual-field stuff,
especially in the context of the patch-turtle duality of
Netlogo. But I'm too busy wandering through the self-similar
foamy white-rabbit warrens to do more than make short stepwise
motion in that direction every few years. Which triggers
another diversion into Glen's "diachronic" vs "episodic"...
trying to understand if there is a yet-more-general model of which
this distinction is a (useful but) degenerate form, explaining my
(and other's) propensity for rabbit-hole-diving, and (possibly)
the long-term or large-scale utility of same?</p>
<p>mumble/ramble</p>
<p>- Steve<br>
</p>
<div>On 8/19/20 11:07 PM, jon zingale wrote:<br>
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<pre>The current administration enjoys making *big moves* both in rhetoric
and action, all establishment without fortification. The 20th-century
weiqi master, Go Seigen, is known for a remarkable strategy that may
find an analog here. Go Seigen would often cede the biggest moves to his
opponent while playing in such a way as to introduce *imperfections of
shape* in the other's unsettled groups. Slowly, he would build thickness
around the board with which to harass, overwhelm, and ultimately defeat
his opponent.
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