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<div dir="auto">In Russia you are not choosing to take a vaccine, you are chosen (if you are not poisoned or shot before). And they skip trial phases to be the first on the market, which is a bit like Russian roulette. Have you heard of Sputnik V ?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I guess most people here in Europe would take an officially approved vaccine which has successfully passed all three trials. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-J.</div><div><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Prof David West <profwest@fastmail.fm> </div><div>Date: 8/23/20 17:33 (GMT+01:00) </div><div>To: friam@redfish.com </div><div>Subject: [FRIAM] vaccine </div><div><br></div></div>How many people on this list would take an approved (assume all standard procedures predated the approval) COVID vaccine if one were available?<br><br>I'll hazard a guess that it would be close to 90%.<br><br>A recent survey showed the percentages of those who would refuse a free government approved vaccine:<br><br>19% — of Democrats<br>24% — of 18-29 year olds<br>30% — of people 65 and older<br>33% — white Americans<br>35% — large-city residents<br>41% — non-white Americans<br>44% — rural/farm residents<br>53% — Republicans<br><br>Comments about how this proves the intelligence of Democrats over Republicans are not very interesting, even if the urge is overwhelming. Nor, comments about youth feeling invulnerable.<br><br>Why so many old people?<br><br>Why so many non-white people?<br><br>Why so many large-city residents?<br><br>How can the claim continue to be made that a vaccine is the only way to "return to normal?"<br><br>How many of you that sheltering-in-place will be happy to emerge into a world where maybe a third of the population declines to be vaccinated?<br><br>How many of you would be in favor of mandatory vaccinations?<br><br>Full disclosure: I would decline a vaccination, just as I have never had a flu shot and just as I would never take a statin drug.<br><br>davew<br><br><br>- .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. .<br>FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<br>Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam<br>un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com<br>archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/<br>FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ <br></body></html>