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<p>Their IP seems to be in full-text indexing/search/patterning
along the lines of Abe Lederman's Deep Web <br>
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<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.deepwebtech.com/">https://www.deepwebtech.com/</a></p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/13/20 8:44 AM, Steve Smith wrote:<br>
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float: none;">Sorry... in my attempt to become "more brief" in
my rattling on here, I left a few things out I could have
included/referenced. Also, I've only penetrated the first
layer myself.<br>
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<p>we read:<br>
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!important; float: none;">"With D-Wave’s quantum services,
SavantX has begun offering its Hyper Optimization Nodal
Efficiency (HONE) technology to solve optimization
problems to customers such as the Pier 300 container
terminal project at the Port of Los Angeles."</span></i></p>
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float: none;">I don't find any HONE references in their
website... which feels a little odd... but not unsurprising
for a company just standing up or in transition.<br>
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float: none;">The most directly relevant to my work is their
HyperNav which appears to be ("nothing more than") a workflow
or methodology around projecting 6 dimensions into 3 which
might be "nothing more than" a grand tour or
projection-pursuit technique (which is where I was hinting
Dave to start his own pursuit of hyper-platonic solids). It
is a hard problem to guide naive practitioners to begin to
"see" their higher dimensional data/models in an intuitive way
that fits their needs. Visual Purple appears to be somewhat
"boutique" depending on the talent/genius of individual 3D
animators to customize a data/model treatment that fits their
client's proclivities. I honor and value that skill but am
more interested, myself in novel methodologies that *support*
that kind of insight/genius. I'm not sure if HyperNav is
that... and I suppose HONE feels the same way in ??? domain?</span></p>
<p>- Steve<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/13/20 8:14 AM, Frank Wimberly
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">HONE. What are the words that make up the
acronym? <br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 8:10
AM Steve Smith <<a href="mailto:sasmyth@swcp.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">sasmyth@swcp.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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the extra references. I can't penetrate the brochure-speak<br>
either... even HONE which sounds like yet another gussied up
machine<br>
learning platform. Of course, a great deal of the success
in that<br>
domain is it's application. I'm assuming they are stirring
in some<br>
Quantum just to create the appearance of an "edge". <br>
<br>
Do you have any more insight into what HONE is beyond the
words that<br>
make the acronym?<br>
<br>
Heinbockel's other company of record: Visual Purple<br>
<a href="https://visualpurple.com" rel="noreferrer
noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://visualpurple.com</a>
reminds me way too much of the two major<br>
clients that I suffered in the last 12 years... WorldScape
and Micoy,<br>
each of whom were aspiring to fill a strong niche in virtual
training<br>
and hollywood FX, but they started with modest IP in the
multi-camera<br>
capture domain (flat and spherical arrays)... the websites
are slick<br>
enough and have enough implied content for many customers I
suspect. I<br>
think their demo reel would be what makes or breaks them.
And whomever<br>
his "co-founder" might be...<br>
<br>
On 9/13/20 5:40 AM, ⛧ glen wrote:<br>
> It seems they're not trying to be a hardware company.<br>
> <a
href="https://www.insidequantumtechnology.com/news/savantx-partnering-with-d-wave-to-help-trucking-companies-optimizing-loads-and-driver-retention/"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.insidequantumtechnology.com/news/savantx-partnering-with-d-wave-to-help-trucking-companies-optimizing-loads-and-driver-retention/</a><br>
><br>
> I found no listings in the gov funded contracts
databases. But CNN lists them as a PPP recipient:<br>
> <a
href="https://www.cnn.com/projects/ppp-business-loans/businesses/savantx-inc"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.cnn.com/projects/ppp-business-loans/businesses/savantx-inc</a><br>
><br>
> My new guess is Ed made a pretty penny in an IPO and
has been hunting for the next big wave, buzzwords from AI/ML
to data science to QC.<br>
><br>
> I'm worried that HONE might be an interesting thing
that gets occluded by 'entrepreneurship'. <br>
><br>
> On September 13, 2020 3:10:25 AM PDT, "⛧ glen" <<a
href="mailto:gepropella@gmail.com" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">gepropella@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>> Thanks for the link to that book!<br>
>><br>
>> I'm unable to pierce the wall of hype around
savantx. Ostby's patents<br>
>> are about search and training sims. My guess is
they're riding a string<br>
>> of SBIR type funding and have convinced some brass
that they can do<br>
>> something cool. I hope it's true and not just hype.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On September 12, 2020 6:08:52 PM PDT, Steve Smith
<<a href="mailto:sasmyth@swcp.com" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">sasmyth@swcp.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>> I'm also interested in the possibility that
perspectives such as are<br>
>>> presented in books like Blackfoot Physics<br>
>>> <<a
href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/110248.Blackfoot_Physics"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/110248.Blackfoot_Physics</a>>
might<br>
>>> have some traction, and the long-shot chance
that one of my young Tewa<br>
>>> neighbors, for example, might grow up and
revolutionize this domain<br>
>>> through hybridization of their own cosmological
perspectives and those<br>
>>> that lead to our current quantum technology. <br>
>>><br>
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