<div dir="auto">Thanks, Steve. The only one that even approaches being semi-auto is a double-action .22 revolver. The rest are old-fashioned lever or bolt action.<br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">---<br>Frank C. Wimberly<br>140 Calle Ojo Feliz, <br>Santa Fe, NM 87505<br><br>505 670-9918<br>Santa Fe, NM</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 3:34 PM Steve Smith <<a href="mailto:sasmyth@swcp.com">sasmyth@swcp.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Frank -</p>
<p>I think you just missed the Santa Fe City/County firearms
"buyback" which has some charms (though I think they are
constrained to always destroy the weapons, which may contradict
some particular antique value of one or the other). <br>
</p>
<p>I DO think firearms of the type you likely inherited (pre 1950
manufacture?) are for the most part, not in the problematic
class... <br>
</p>
<p>According to Wikipedia, NM does require background checks on
private purchases... it would probably be easier for you to sell
to a gun dealer, possibly at a gun show. Such a person would at
least understand the collectible value of what you have, whether
they pay a fair price for it or not (guy's gotta make a profit?).</p>
<p>My own values suggest that A) you make sure the firearms don't
get abused in this modern gun-crazy culture; B) make sure that any
familial sentimentality is not violated (sounds like that phase
has already been passed); C) make sure any particularly
interesting vintage pieces make their way to proper
collector/museum hands. Roughly in that order. They could also
be rendered inoperable such that it would require a gunsmith to
return them to fireable condition. I'm guessing in all cases,
removing or filing down a firing pin is the method.</p>
<p>While I often imply (maybe even boldly state?) That I do not own
any firearms, I AM the curator of two revolvers handed down to me,
I just deliberately don't maintain any ammunition, nor do I
fetishize them (as cool of mechanisms as they are when inspected
closely). I DID incorporate the (very slightly damaged) barrel
of my Grandfather's service .45 (replaced by my father during his
tenure with it) into an art piece about "action at a distance"...
cartography and ballistic weapons.. <br>
</p>
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<p><i>(it was selected in a juried art-show making me "an Artist"
which in turn means (I believe) now anything I craft that I
*call* Art, is now, in fact *Art* because I'm an artist (see
first clause) and I *say so*! I am in the same boat as you
Frank, thinking I might best just remove these fancy
mechanisms from being useful for threatening/wounding/killing
people/animals/roadsigns.)</i></p>
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<p>When closing down my parents house after my dad died and my
mother opted for an assisted living lifestyle, his two *rifles*
went missing. I did not know precisely where they were stored,
but had an idea and sought them out first to make sure they didn't
"get loose". Both were fairly innocuous... the first being my
Grandfather's *other* WWI service weapon (30.06 bolt-action
single-shot used by my father as a deer rifle with open sights)
and the other being a 20 guage shotgun my father took in trade
from a colleague early in his career but never really used... He
had let go of a .22 plinking rifle somewhere in his retirement, so
I didn't have to look for that. The revolvers and a tiny (by
most people's measure) cache of ammunition (at least a decade
stale by that time) were nearby but the likely thief (someone who
had done some work/help for my parents who had access to the
building and must have seen the weapons) didn't find. While
either of the weapons "lost" could be used to threaten, harm or
kill someone, they are nothing compared to the now-popular
assault-style semi-automatics and combat (12ga) shotguns. My
father taught me the basics of firearms handling and safety and
sent me through an NRA sponsored course around age 13 which I am
thankful for. I handled his weapons enough during that time to
become moderately proficient and familiar but I suspect I'm more
accurate with my bow or a rock than I would be with a firearm.<br>
</p>
<p>I don't know what to offer about your youngster who is being
indoctrinated into gun violence/combat by the popular culture...
I myself can be seduced by the action shows and some aspects of
strong action-oriented computer-video games... with "action" as a
euphemism for *aggressive violence* I suppose. I believe that we,
as a culture, are rather unhealthy in a number of dimensions, this
being one of the more acutely obvious (to some of us) ones.<br>
</p>
<p>Good on you for caring enough to do right by this issue.</p>
<p>- Steve<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I inherited or received as gifts six firearms
(rifles and pistols) from the previous generation of my family.
They were ranchers, farmers, or railroad workers at various
times in their lives. I would be happy to sell the whole lot.
It may be the case that a sale of any of them would have to be
done in connection with an investigation of the buyer's possible
criminal background. Does anyone know? I can call the police
if a buyer appears. They are all now in a very secure safe
since I live with a young boy with an intense interest in guns
and combat. He watches videos made by high school and college
students and plays video games almost all of which have combat
modes. I wishi it were possible to assess the association of
such games and videos with violent criminal activity later in
life. If that were possible would it affect their availability?</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 1:48
PM Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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think it probably depends on the time horizon. While the
social wound is healing it probably helps the authoritarians,
in the long run there is memory. Counting on empathy at all
seems pretty iffy to me. It depends where one sits in the
socio-economic scheme of things and how you see the future.
I would just replace the your recommendation of
group-self-policing with self-modulating. Invoke chaos when
chaos will be untenable to stop by force -- when it is in fact
terrifying to those in power to have it continue. <br>
<br>
It definitely makes me think every time I drive by the local
hardware store and still see it boarded up with plywood -- the
plywood now covered with graffiti. It makes me speculate
about the guilty conscience of the owners, actually. The
movie theater across the street put up a Black Lives Matter
sign on the marquee, and nothing happened to them.<br>
<br>
This is reptile brain stuff, but I think it has an impact.<br>
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I can't find it now. But some outlet argued that
state-sponsored violence positively reinforced empathy for the
victim and negatively reinforced empathy for the police and
state. And riot-violence positively reinforced empathy for the
police and state and negatively reinforced opinions of the
rioters. I don't believe it (yet) because it makes too much
*sense* to be an actual result. Sounds like rationalization or
confirmation bias.<br>
<br>
But if it's true, then riots do work ... to bolster a fascist
state. Rioters who call themselves "anarchists" are either
tools of the fascists or just too stupid to understand what
they're doing. Actual anarchists would not riot.<br>
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On 9/16/20 12:17 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:<br>
> In my neighborhood somewhat hijacked a LED street sign to
say "Riot's work". If it is just the 2nd amendment types
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will be perceived as one-sided. <br>
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