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<p>I don't know how good this media-bias chart is, but I find it
interesting, if not an actual meaningful artifact that there is a
bit of a gap on the right side of the chart between a "little
Right" and "a little Unreliable" to "very Right and
Unreliable". The left seems to be more of a continuum. With
"all sources" and "all articles" turned on I found an interesting
gestalt. I have some beef with the way they characterize
Left/Right and Reliable/Unreliable and the way some outlets are
rated, but I'm (mostly) trusting that they have a methodology that
is at least transparent if not one I fully agree with. But I
haven't bothered to drill down much.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/10/20 7:09 PM, Steve Smith wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I'm clocking in at 7 to left and 6 to
the anarchistic (down), but find this kind of "test" is prone to
conflating things I don't like to conflate. Even Myers-Briggs
with 4 and Enneagrams with 7? have too much of that going on
IMO. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I also don't think this is calibrated
well, nor is it necessarily a linear metric. Not trying to
dismiss or abuse it, just noting that it all deserves some
normalization.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I also find that these fit my
*personal preferences* for how *I* want to live, not necessarily
my preferences for how *everyone else* should live. I know a
LOT of people who feel a lot safer if they in an authoritarian
matrix... it gives them some kind of security to have a person,
a party, an ideology to defer to. I also prefer to be a lot
more generous with others than I think a lot of people naturally
do (and more than I once did myself)... it helps if I know them
or at least have met them in person, but I'm not particularly
against a whole world full of people who are getting their needs
met, either through enlightened, individual self-actualization
or participation in a somewhat more herd/pack/tribe/hive model
for meeting those needs. My inner-complexicist gives extra
points for a spectrum of diversity and scale... rugged
anarcho-primitivists all the way to near-hive-like
naked-mole-rat communes. Though I suppose I'd rather have a
beer (mead brewed in a hole in a rock?) with the former than the
latter.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">If I had a stronger
inner-authoritarian I would probably contradictorally dictate to
all that they must choose an entirely anarchistic life which was
simultaneously also extremely generous and accepting of
others... <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I also wonder how most of us would
clock in if/when/as we had less privilege... it might be
possible that the privilege of being a member of the first
world, most of us male, most of us nominally "white". We might
find that if we got caught more often between push and shove, we
might seek a more authoritarian matrix where nobody else could
force their personal will on us because the
collective/governance will was too strong/rigid to allow for
it? We also might find that if we felt like we lived in a world
of true scarcity, we might not be as eager to share... we might
be a little more greedy (or more aptly, desperate?)... <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Well some of you only seem to be -4. At
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<p class="MsoNormal">Do we all agree at an insanely high
level? Then wtf have we been arguing about all these
years. Let’s wait until Glen and Dave take the test before
we bury all our hatchets. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I was pretty much dead center in the
lower left quadrant, which was surprising to me. I would
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I took it. I'm barely left on economics and
strongly libertarian on social issues<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Professor of Statistics,
Carnegie Mellon University<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I just took the political compass
test and surprise surprise, I am a<br>
left-libertarian.<br>
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