<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">So this is metastasizing now, and there have been other decades when it wasn’t such a problem, or at least not as overt.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Is that due to demographic sorting? In more prosperous (or even just earlier) times, enough people stayed near where they were born that cultures got some mix of preferences, and you didn’t have whole regions “submitting too much to the authorities in their lives”. But when those who wanted out could get out, and did so systematically, the ones who stayed behind could create a tailored paradise for the preferences that had caused them to stay behind?<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 12, 2020, at 10:19 AM, Roger Critchlow <<a href="mailto:rec@elf.org" class="">rec@elf.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/10/12/trump-voter-authoritarian-research/" class="">https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/10/12/trump-voter-authoritarian-research/</a><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-- rec --</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 12:27 AM Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com" class="">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Oct 10, 2020, 9:18 PM <<a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="gmail-m_-8682206521367141913m-6349746993548423742qt-msonormal1">Do we all agree at an insanely high level? Then wtf have we been arguing about all these years. Let’s wait until Glen and Dave take the test before we bury all our hatchets.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="gmail-m_-8682206521367141913m-6349746993548423742qt-msonormal1"> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="gmail-m_-8682206521367141913m-6349746993548423742qt-msonormal1">n<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="gmail-m_-8682206521367141913m-6349746993548423742qt-msonormal1"> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="gmail-m_-8682206521367141913m-6349746993548423742qt-msonormal1">Nicholas Thompson<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="gmail-m_-8682206521367141913m-6349746993548423742qt-msonormal1">Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="gmail-m_-8682206521367141913m-6349746993548423742qt-msonormal1">Clark University<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="gmail-m_-8682206521367141913m-6349746993548423742qt-msonormal1"><a href="mailto:ThompNickSon2@gmail.com" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)" class="">ThompNickSon2@gmail.com</span></a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="gmail-m_-8682206521367141913m-6349746993548423742qt-msonormal1"><a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwordpress.clarku.edu%2fnthompson%2f&c=E,1,jI9pg2_C34oOCpyabOwNVYM7KJGCPx7H3EupAcE2q9TK2V75UO7IrMX_UOS1TIZ0puSAcbRFu09JGz8yK4gzt6DIJCqNtiA3EEOMsqYT64DoqXJS7TM,&typo=1" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)" class="">https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/</span></a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="gmail-m_-8682206521367141913m-6349746993548423742qt-msonormal1"> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="gmail-m_-8682206521367141913m-6349746993548423742qt-msonormal1"> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="gmail-m_-8682206521367141913m-6349746993548423742qt-msonormal1"> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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