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<p>Carl/Eric -</p>
<p>Rabbit Holes R Us! <br>
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<p>Thanks for the great offering of parallax here. I feel that this
group/list often defaults to a somewhat analytical stance and
tries to drill down, zoom in, decompose the things we discuss
while there are always aspects of the topic with are best deferred
to applications of parallax and synthesis (or some of each,
annealing style?)...</p>
<p>This topic, of unfamiliar languages and language forms and the
cultures they developed within, provides us with some "instant
parallax" I believe. If I had my life to live over again, I
think I would choose (knowing what I know now) to try to be/come
multicultural. <br>
</p>
<p>- Steve<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/13/20 10:34 AM, Carl Tollander
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Great question! Busy week, tho. We might look
at related kanji (my favorite is the kanji characters for gate
and ma), the system of radicals, and various systems for
transliteration (romaji, Hepburn, etc) and different systems for
pronouncing the same kanji, and how all those interlace.
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<div>It is quite the rabbit hole. Consider:</div>
<div><a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E9%96%80#Japanese"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E9%96%80#Japanese</a></div>
<div>and</div>
<div><a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E9%96%93"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E9%96%93</a><br>
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<div>The last question is even better and I will have some
thoughts there later, but as I say, busy week.</div>
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<div>C</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 9:32
AM Steve Smith <<a href="mailto:sasmyth@swcp.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">sasmyth@swcp.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p>We obviously have at least two Japanophiles here...<br>
</p>
<p>My (very limited) familiarity with Chinese Logographic
written language and the inherited/derived Japanese Kanji
I was struck by how intrinsic the metaphorical nature of
Ideograms are. Pictograms are more "visually
onomatapoeic" which is (more than) a nod to the perceptual
grounding of language. It seems that Logographic writing
mixes Pictographic, Ideographic and even Rebus (phonetic
loan words) as-needed, with what seems like a natural
drift toward phonographic language/syllabaries (e.g.
Katakana). Of course, having
metaphor-derangement-syndrome, I find metaphor everywhere
and even more to the point of my own idiosyncratic
perspective, the stacking or composition of metaphors
evidenced in ideogrammatic compounds and the broad use of
radicals to combine/modify/nuance ideograms.</p>
<p>I'd be curious if either of you (anyone really) has more
insight into the way these written languages maintain the
vestiges of their own evolution/development and hints for
how people who use these languages might structure their
thought similarly or differently to those who use entirely
phonographic writing (all of the modern West?)</p>
<p>- Steve<br>
</p>
<div>On 10/13/20 8:42 AM, Prof David West wrote:<br>
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<div style="font-family:Arial">Carl,<br>
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<div style="font-family:Arial">Mentioning art and
translation made me think of this book<br>
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<div style="font-family:Arial"><br>
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<div style="font-family:Arial"><i><a rel="nofollow"
href="https://books.google.com/books?id=P14rAH8xU9EC&printsec=frontcover"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">The Chinese
Written Character as a Medium for Poetry</a></i>,
composed by the Ernest Fenollosa, edited by <a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Pound"
title="Ezra Pound" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">Ezra Pound</a> after the
author's death, 1918.<br>
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<div style="font-family:Arial"><br>
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<div style="font-family:Arial">I frequently refer to it
when confronting issues of cognition and language and
culture; and as insight into why Whorf was right and why
he was wrong.<br>
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<div style="font-family:Arial"><br>
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<div style="font-family:Arial">You might enjoy it. <br>
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<div style="font-family:Arial">davew<br>
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<div>On Mon, Oct 12, 2020, at 9:45 PM, Carl Tollander
wrote:<br>
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<div>Dave,<br>
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<div>Thanks, not there yet. Somewhere between Zen
and Shinto, anyhows. <br>
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<div>The test is a mirror, in the sense that it
proposed a lot of photons in short order that I
would not normally consider, which brought some
opportunity for self-reflection. A bunch of "gee,
that's odd" moments.<br>
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<div>Sort of like studying Japanese grammar might give
some insights about the English language and the
nature of translation. One of the works that
disabused me of western notions of Japanese
"traditional" arts was Edith Grossman's "Why
Translation Matters". (note -- she doesn't talk
about Japan at all) Respect as engagement rather
than obeisance. <br>
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<div><br>
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<div>C<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 9:02 PM Prof
David West <<a href="mailto:profwest@fastmail.fm"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">profwest@fastmail.fm</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div style="font-family:Arial">Carl is very
Japanese and master of Drum Zen.<br>
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<div style="font-family:Arial">davew<br>
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<div>On Mon, Oct 12, 2020, at 8:50 PM, Steve Smith
wrote:<br>
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<p>Carl -<br>
</p>
<div>Acknowledged. The foreground/background
thing is always tricky. I don't mean to
attribute any reality to "personal freedoms",
yet somehow "not being an ass" is something
*like* respecting others "personal freedoms",
even though such are in some sense an
illusion. Perhaps someone can articulate
this better than I have?<br>
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<div><br>
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<div>- Steve<br>
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<div>Steve, <br>
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<div>You assume I have some fealty to the
notion of "personal freedoms". Perhaps
that is unwarranted. I just see no
reason to be an ass.<br>
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<div>>>I don't know you well Carl,
but from what I do think I know, you are
clearly *very* independent and *very*
considerate of others and their personal
freedoms. That sounds pretty
*l*ibertarian to me FWIW.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 10:18
AM Steve Smith <<a
href="mailto:sasmyth@swcp.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">sasmyth@swcp.com</a>>
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<div>Carl Tollander wrote:<br>
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<div>-9,-8.1 <br>
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<div>But I do think it would depend
a bit on the day.<br>
</div>
<div>Oddly, never thought of myself
as a libertarian.<br>
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<p>I think some pretty strong *Fascists*
co-opted the term "Libertarian" for
themselves. My experience with the
*L*ibertarian self-identified is they
seem to lean toward a virulent
extremist willingness to *assert their
will* on others under the guise of
protecting *their will from
subversion* . When I was younger
(more juiced on the hormones and
rhetoric and appeal of competition?) I
was more seduced by some of that. Now
it just makes me feel systemically
ill.<br>
</p>
<p>I don't know you well Carl, but from
what I do think I know, you are
clearly *very* independent and *very*
considerate of others and their
personal freedoms. That sounds pretty
*l*ibertarian to me FWIW.<br>
</p>
<p>- Steve<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Mon, Oct 12, 2020
at 8:48 AM Marcus Daniels <<a
href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<p>There is another aspect of
staying behind which puts
more weight on maintaining
local (e.g. family and
childhood) relationships.
I don’t think this
inclination is overtly
authoritarian. However, a
strong desire to maintain a
social fabric could lead to
policing mechanisms for
them, and that brings in
(say) the church. When a
social network is more
important than having any
sort of purpose, weird
things happen. Wired has
an article on some crazies
up in Forks, Washington that
is worth a skim. <br>
</p>
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<div><b>From:</b> Friam
<<a
href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>David
Eric Smith<br>
</div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Monday,
October 12, 2020 7:35 AM<br>
</div>
<div><b>To:</b> The Friday
Morning Applied
Complexity Coffee Group
<<a
href="mailto:friam@redfish.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">friam@redfish.com</a>><br>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re:
[FRIAM] Political
compass teest<br>
</div>
<p><br>
</p>
</div>
</div>
<p> <br>
</p>
<p>So this is metastasizing
now, and there have been
other decades when it wasn’t
such a problem, or at least
not as overt.<br>
</p>
<div>
<p> <br>
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Is that due to
demographic sorting? In
more prosperous (or even
just earlier) times,
enough people stayed near
where they were born that
cultures got some mix of
preferences, and you
didn’t have whole regions
“submitting too much to
the authorities in their
lives”. But when those
who wanted out could get
out, and did so
systematically, the ones
who stayed behind could
create a tailored paradise
for the preferences that
had caused them to stay
behind?<br>
</p>
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<p>On Oct 12, 2020, at
10:19 AM, Roger
Critchlow <<a
href="mailto:rec@elf.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">rec@elf.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
</p>
</div>
<p> <br>
</p>
<div>
<div>
<p><a
href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/10/12/trump-voter-authoritarian-research/"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/10/12/trump-voter-authoritarian-research/</a><br>
</p>
<div>
<p> <br>
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>-- rec --<br>
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p> <br>
</p>
</div>
</div>
<p> <br>
</p>
<div>
<div>
<p>On Sun, Oct 11,
2020 at 12:27 AM
Marcus Daniels
<<a
href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<p>There’s a
page on the
2020 election
where they
claim, among
other strange
things, that
Warren is a
right-leaning
authoritarian. If that is true, which I doubt, it says to me
politicians
are mirroring
the electorate
in a very
obscure way.
And I am
pretty sure I
am not far to
the left of
Bernie
Sanders. <br>
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<div><b>From:</b>
Friam <<a
href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf
Of </b>Stephen
Guerin<br>
</div>
<div><b>Sent:</b>
Saturday,
October 10,
2020 8:39 PM<br>
</div>
<div><b>To:</b>
The Friday
Morning
Applied
Complexity
Coffee Group
<<a
href="mailto:friam@redfish.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">friam@redfish.com</a>><br>
</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b>
Re: [FRIAM]
Political
compass teest<br>
</div>
<p><br>
</p>
</div>
<p> <br>
</p>
<div>
<p>ec=-5.75
& soc=-6.3<br>
</p>
<div>
<div>
<p> <br>
</p>
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<div>
<p> <br>
</p>
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<div>
<p> <br>
</p>
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<p> <br>
</p>
<div>
<div>
<p>On Sat, Oct
10, 2020, 9:18
PM <<a
href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<p>I’m more of
a libertarian
than Dave is?
Something MUST
be wrong,
here.<br>
</p>
<p> <br>
</p>
<div>
<p>Nicholas
Thompson<br>
</p>
<p>Emeritus
Professor of
Ethology and
Psychology<br>
</p>
<p>Clark
University<br>
</p>
<p><a
href="mailto:ThompNickSon2@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">ThompNickSon2@gmail.com</span></a><br>
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<p> <br>
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<div><b>From:</b>
Friam <<a
href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf
Of </b>Prof
David West<br>
</div>
<div><b>Sent:</b>
Saturday,
October 10,
2020 6:39 PM<br>
</div>
<div><b>To:</b>
<a
href="mailto:friam@redfish.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">friam@redfish.com</a><br>
</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b>
Re: [FRIAM]
Political
compass teest<br>
</div>
<p><br>
</p>
</div>
</div>
<p> <br>
</p>
<div>
<p><span><span><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Econ left/right: -0.88</span></span></span><br>
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span><span><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Social Lib/Auth: -6.1</span></span></span><br>
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span><span><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></span></span><br>
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<p><span><span><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">davew</span></span></span><br>
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span><span><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">NOT a Libertarian</span></span></span><br>
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span><span><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></span></span><br>
</p>
</div>
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<p>On Sat, Oct
10, 2020, at
5:56 PM, <a
href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>
wrote:<br>
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<p>Do we all
agree at an
insanely high
level? Then
wtf have we
been arguing
about all
these years.
Let’s wait
until Glen and
Dave take the
test before we
bury all our
hatchets.<br>
</p>
<p> <br>
</p>
<p>n<br>
</p>
<p> <br>
</p>
<p>Nicholas
Thompson<br>
</p>
<p>Emeritus
Professor of
Ethology and
Psychology<br>
</p>
<p>Clark
University<br>
</p>
<p><a
href="mailto:ThompNickSon2@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">ThompNickSon2@gmail.com</span></a><br>
</p>
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<p><b>From:</b>
Friam <<a
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf
Of </b>Gary
Schiltz<br>
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p><b>Sent:</b>
Saturday,
October 10,
2020 5:29 PM<br>
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p><b>To:</b>
The Friday
Morning
Applied
Complexity
Coffee Group
<<a
href="mailto:friam@redfish.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">friam@redfish.com</a>><br>
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<div>
<p><b>Subject:</b>
Re: [FRIAM]
Political
compass teest<br>
</p>
</div>
</div>
<p> <br>
</p>
<div>
<p>I was
pretty much
dead center in
the lower left
quadrant,
which was
surprising to
me. I would
have thought I
would be in
the middle of
the whole
graph.<br>
</p>
</div>
<p> <br>
</p>
<div>
<div>
<p>On Sat, Oct
10, 2020 at
4:52 PM George
Duncan <<a
href="mailto:gtduncan@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gtduncan@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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I took it. I'm
barely left on
economics and
strongly
libertarian on
social issues</span></span></span></span></span></span><br>
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<p>My art
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order and
luminous
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then be a
valuable
delusion."</span></span></span></span></span></span><br>
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come alive to
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<p>On Sat, Oct
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