<div dir="ltr">Nick, I was rather wondering the same thing myself. Frank, please toss us a thread-thin lifeline to help buoy the spirits of us bleeding heart liberals haha. Is your optimism somehow based on the number of uncounted mail-in ballots?</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 11:33 AM <<a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div class="gmail-m_-1311537628596337207WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">Frank,  <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I am just waking up.  (Yeah, I know.)  I see that biden has to carry all the states where he is leading and at least  one in which he is not.  Can you tell me the basis for your cautious optimism?  I need that right now.  <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Nick <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Nicholas Thompson<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Clark University<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:ThompNickSon2@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">ThompNickSon2@gmail.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/</span></a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Barry MacKichan<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 4, 2020 9:47 AM<br><b>To:</b> The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] election eve<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">I’m not sure that Trump believes there is any chance the courts will help stop counting the vote.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">The other purpose for what he is doing is to create another grievance. Trump thrives on grievances, and a few more will only help his post-presidential career (right-wing broadcasting??).<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">—Barry<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">On 2 Nov 2020, at 16:42, Frank Wimberly wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1.5pt solid rgb(119,119,119);padding:0in 0in 0in 4pt;margin-left:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:3.75pt"><div id="gmail-m_-131153762859633720781C22BC8-41E2-49F0-8A1C-2FE2BAD86162"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(119,119,119)">Any party that participates in efforts to invalidate ligitimate voters or ballots does not deserve to have candidates in office.  In every case that I am aware of in this election courts have decided in favor of the voters or ballots that are the subjects of these kinds of efforts.  Trump et al seem desperate.<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(119,119,119)">---<br>Frank C. Wimberly<br>140 Calle Ojo Feliz, <br>Santa Fe, NM 87505<br><br>505 670-9918<br>Santa Fe, NM<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(119,119,119)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(119,119,119)">On Mon, Nov 2, 2020, 2:24 PM Roger Critchlow <<a href="mailto:rec@elf.org" target="_blank">rec@elf.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(119,119,119)"><a href="https://www.startribune.com/more-than-1-7m-absentee-ballots-returned-in-minnesota-as-feds-announce-election-monitors/572949792/" target="_blank">https://www.startribune.com/more-than-1-7m-absentee-ballots-returned-in-minnesota-as-feds-announce-election-monitors/572949792/</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(119,119,119)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(119,119,119)">Barr is sending the DOJ to help with the election.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(119,119,119)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(119,119,119)">-- rec --<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(119,119,119)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(119,119,119)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(119,119,119)">On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 3:33 PM <<a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com" target="_blank">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(119,119,119)">I dunno.  What Is happening in MN. <br><br><a href="https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/minnesota/" target="_blank">https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/minnesota/</a><br><br>Nicholas Thompson<br>Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology<br>Clark University<br><a href="mailto:ThompNickSon2@gmail.com" target="_blank">ThompNickSon2@gmail.com</a><br><a href="https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/" target="_blank">https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/</a><br><br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> On Behalf Of u?l? ???<br>Sent: Monday, November 2, 2020 1:03 PM<br>To: FriAM <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [FRIAM] election eve<br><br>What's happening in Minnesota?<br><br><a href="https://electoral-vote.com/evp2020/Pres/Graphs/minnesota.html" target="_blank">https://electoral-vote.com/evp2020/Pres/Graphs/minnesota.html</a><br><a href="https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/minnesota/" target="_blank">https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/minnesota/</a><br><a href="https://electionprojection.com/minnesota-presidential-election.php" target="_blank">https://electionprojection.com/minnesota-presidential-election.php</a><br><a href="https://www.politico.com/2020-election/race-forecasts-and-predictions/minnesota/" target="_blank">https://www.politico.com/2020-election/race-forecasts-and-predictions/minnesota/</a><br><br><br>On 11/2/20 8:42 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:<br>> <br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> On Behalf Of Prof David West<br>> Sent: Monday, November 2, 2020 8:26 AM<br>> To: <a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a><br>> Subject: [FRIAM] election eve<br>> <br>> (Everyone is seeing Wisconsin as must win and ignoring what is <br>> happening in Minnesota, a state with the same 10 votes as Wisconsin.)<br><br><br>--<br></span><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif;color:rgb(119,119,119)">↙↙↙</span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(119,119,119)"> uǝlƃ<br><br>- .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. .<br>FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<br>Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6  <a href="http://bit.ly/virtualfriam" target="_blank">bit.ly/virtualfriam</a> un/subscribe <a href="http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com" target="_blank">http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com</a><br>archives: <a href="http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/FRIAM-COMIC" target="_blank">http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/<br>FRIAM-COMIC</a> <a href="http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/</a> <br><br><br>- .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. .<br>FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<br>Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6  <a href="http://bit.ly/virtualfriam" target="_blank">bit.ly/virtualfriam</a><br>un/subscribe <a href="http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com" target="_blank">http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com</a><br>archives: <a href="http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/FRIAM-COMIC" target="_blank">http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/<br>FRIAM-COMIC</a> <a href="http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/</a> <u></u><u></u></span></p></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(119,119,119)">- .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. .<br>FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<br>Zoom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