<div dir="auto">A large percentage of the variance between "us" and "them" seems to be living in a city vs living in the country. Not all but a lot.<div dir="auto"><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">---<br>Frank C. Wimberly<br>140 Calle Ojo Feliz, <br>Santa Fe, NM 87505<br><br>505 670-9918<br>Santa Fe, NM </div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 5, 2020, 12:59 PM Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">At some level I think we all recognize that the United States has been a predatory nation. For centuries, the influential in this country arranged to take the things they wanted, even people. We recognize that we have a better lifestyle
than people elsewhere in the world. Trump releases the shame that might cause us to consider repairing the harm we have done or at least work harder to justify our special status. No, it is enough to join Team Trump and call those people names. My dog
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<p class="MsoNormal">NYT Nicholas Kristof ended his <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/04/opinion/donald-trump-election-2020.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">
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<p>"So as I fret about Trump’s efforts to do Russia’s work and delegitimize this election, I also keep wrestling with this question: How is it that so many millions of Americans watched Trump for four years, suffered the pain of his bungling of Covid-19, listened
to his stream of lies, observed his attacks on American institutions<i> </i>— and then voted for him in greater numbers than before?"<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p>Last count per NYT, there have been 68,644,941 votes (47.8%) this morning for Trump. So many voters, that apparently don't see {choose your favorite crisis} as a key issue either, it boggles my mind. What have those movements done wrong? If I didn't understand
how difficult it is to steal an election (detailed in another NYT oped today), I might even say there was something fishy.
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 5:31 PM Jochen Fromm <<a href="mailto:jofr@cas-group.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jofr@cas-group.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">One thing that confuses me is Trump being attributed 267 vs 268 EVs. But I suppose it could be Maine, with it's split representation:<br>
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<a href="https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/election-results-and-news-11-04-20/h_f5ca6d24c85ac45e193bf0b1c9b1a2f6" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/election-results-and-news-11-04-20/h_f5ca6d24c85ac45e193bf0b1c9b1a2f6</a><br>
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On 11/4/20 10:12 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote:<br>
> Nick,<br>
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> See Glen's 270 to 267 estimate. Biden may still win either Georgia or Pennsylvania or both because of the Democrat majority that is likely among the uncounted votes. If any of that happens Biden wins with a margin. <br>
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> Biden: 227, Trump: 213 with PA(20), NC(15), and GA(16) toward Trump and MI(16), WI(10), NV(6), and AZ(11) toward Biden.<br>
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> 227+16+10+11+6 = 270<br>
> 213+3+15+20+16 = 267<br>
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