<div dir="ltr">Nick have you checked your oxygen?<div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Cody Smith</div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 9:54 PM Frank Wimberly <<a href="mailto:wimberly3@gmail.com">wimberly3@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(60,64,67);font-family:roboto,helveticaneue,arial,sans-serif;font-size:18px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">But a lesser known cause is </span><b style="max-height:999999px;color:rgb(60,64,67);font-family:roboto,helveticaneue,arial,sans-serif;font-size:18px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Charles Bonnet syndrome</b><span style="color:rgb(60,64,67);font-family:roboto,helveticaneue,arial,sans-serif;font-size:18px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> (</span><b style="max-height:999999px;color:rgb(60,64,67);font-family:roboto,helveticaneue,arial,sans-serif;font-size:18px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">pronounced</b><span style="color:rgb(60,64,67);font-family:roboto,helveticaneue,arial,sans-serif;font-size:18px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> bo-nay), named after the Swiss scientist who first described the condition in 1760</span><br><br><br>I'm not trying to be a PITA. Let me know.<br><div>---<br>Frank C. Wimberly<br>140 Calle Ojo Feliz, <br>Santa Fe, NM 87505<br><br>505 670-9918<br>Santa Fe, NM</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 9:48 PM <<a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com" target="_blank">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div><p class="MsoNormal">I think it’s the hat. But could be wrong. If so, google hallucinations.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Nicholas Thompson<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Clark University<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:ThompNickSon2@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">ThompNickSon2@gmail.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/</span></a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Frank Wimberly<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 7, 2020 5:57 PM<br><b>To:</b> The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] Nick's Recovery<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">Isn't it Charles Bonnet (BO-nay)?<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">---<br>Frank C. Wimberly<br>140 Calle Ojo Feliz, <br>Santa Fe, NM 87505<br><br>505 670-9918<br>Santa Fe, NM<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 4:40 PM Steve Smith <<a href="mailto:sasmyth@swcp.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">sasmyth@swcp.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><p>Nick -<u></u><u></u></p><p>I don't know about this syndrome by name (Charles Bonnet), but am familiar with "sundowner's syndrome", having "walked two old men to their graves over a decade (each) with Alzheimer's" and observing their agitation (better and/or worse) as the quality of light shifts just before/after sundown. I am also acutely aware, myself, of the experience of twilight reducing visual acuity to the point that I am irritated and mildly confused because I think I *should* be able to distinguish various things (writing, diagrams, threaded fasteners, etc.) and I am unable to. <u></u><u></u></p><p>I have known people who had slow developing cataracts who felt a profound loss of cognitive ability from the creeping loss of vision which they didn't appreciate until they had cataract surgery and the majority of the loss (vison and by correlation their sense of cognitive inhibition?)<u></u><u></u></p><p>I am, for one, waiting with bated brethe to know if you are in fact suffering/recovering from something and whether you have reason to believe (up to and including testing) it to be the "evil COVID"! And again, by correlation, if there is anything anyone here can do to help (except maybe not write you long missives and expect you to read and respond?)<u></u><u></u></p><p><b><i>[NST===>tx I would instantly ping this list if I got a symptom that seemed to confound the Dr. <===nst] </i></b><u></u><u></u></p><p>- Steve<u></u><u></u></p><p><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On 12/7/20 3:35 PM, <a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><p>Do you know about Charles Barret syndrome [<i>Quod Googlet</i>}. It is caused by declining vision but can become dramatic when we spend a lot time in dimly lit rooms. Gives a new angle on what we mean by exerience<u></u><u></u></p><p> <u></u><u></u></p><p>Nicholas Thompson<u></u><u></u></p><p>Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology<u></u><u></u></p><p>Clark University<u></u><u></u></p><p><a href="mailto:ThompNickSon2@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ThompNickSon2@gmail.com</a><u></u><u></u></p><p><a href="https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/</a><u></u><u></u></p><p> <u></u><u></u></p><p> <u></u><u></u></p><p>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Friam <a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><friam-bounces@redfish.com></a> On Behalf Of Steve Smith<br>Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 1:51 PM<br>To: <a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a><br>Subject: [FRIAM] Nick's Recovery<u></u><u></u></p><p> <u></u><u></u></p><p> <u></u><u></u></p><p>> Thanks, frank Perhaps feeling better today. 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