<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type="text/css">p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div style="font-family:Arial;">yes, but that was not his "sin." The seed belonged to his dead brother by law and so his "crime" /"sin" was depriving his brother of owed property, hence theft.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">davew<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div>On Sat, Dec 12, 2020, at 10:00 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style=""><div dir="auto"><div>Onan "spilled his seed on the ground." No?<br></div><div><br></div><div><div>---<br></div><div>Frank C. Wimberly<br></div><div>140 Calle Ojo Feliz, <br></div><div>Santa Fe, NM 87505<br></div><div><br></div><div>505 670-9918<br></div><div>Santa Fe, NM<br></div></div></div><div><br></div><div class="qt-gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="qt-gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 9:58 AM Prof David West <<a href="mailto:profwest@fastmail.fm">profwest@fastmail.fm</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="qt-gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-style:solid;border-left-width:1px;padding-left:1ex;"><div>Onanism?<br></div><div> <br></div><div> I assume you are using the in the modern metaphor/euphemism sense (masturbation/coitus interuptus) but it made me think about words, words, words that reflected the actual "sin" of Onan — which was pure and simple theft. <br></div><div> <br></div><div> Words placed in front of you, like this text, could be an act of thievery on my part; as I am 'stealing' your attention and time if they manage to seduce you into musing about them.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> seductive words might also take us into the biblical realm of adultery which was also a property crime with nothing to do with sex.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> davew<br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> On Thu, Dec 10, 2020, at 10:01 AM, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ wrote:<br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > Thoughts on the National Constitution Center's "Constitution Drafting <br></div><div> > Project"<br></div><div> > <a href="https://reason.com/volokh/2020/12/09/thoughts-on-the-national-constitution-centers-constitution-drafting-project/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://reason.com/volokh/2020/12/09/thoughts-on-the-national-constitution-centers-constitution-drafting-project/</a><br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > I had no idea such a project was underway! Though it's possible I <br></div><div> > learned about it and simply forgot. I *feel* like I should have been <br></div><div> > aware of it, given the number of productive arguments I've had about <br></div><div> > the electoral college over the past 4 years.<br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > In particular, I am ignorant of the American Constitution Society <br></div><div> > <<a href="https://www.acslaw.org/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.acslaw.org/</a>>, as a "living constitution" complement to the <br></div><div> > Federalist Society (or at least that's they way Somin describes it. I <br></div><div> > haven't yet read the Atlantic article he links to ... words, words, <br></div><div> > words ... so many words. Which words extend out into the world and <br></div><div> > which words are mere Onanism?<br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > -- <br></div><div> > ↙↙↙ uǝlƃ<br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. .<br></div><div> > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<br></div><div> > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 <a href="http://bit.ly/virtualfriam" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">bit.ly/virtualfriam</a><br></div><div> > un/subscribe <a href="http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com</a><br></div><div> > archives: <a href="http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/</a><br></div><div> > FRIAM-COMIC <a href="http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/</a> <br></div><div> ><br></div><div> <br></div><div> - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. .<br></div><div> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<br></div><div> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 <a href="http://bit.ly/virtualfriam" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">bit.ly/virtualfriam</a><br></div><div> un/subscribe <a href="http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com</a><br></div><div> archives: <a href="http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/FRIAM-COMIC" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/<br> FRIAM-COMIC</a> <a href="http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/</a> </div></blockquote></div><div>- .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. .<br></div><div>FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<br></div><div>Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 <a href="http://bit.ly/virtualfriam">bit.ly/virtualfriam</a><br></div><div>un/subscribe <a href="http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com">http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com</a><br></div><div>archives: <a href="http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/">http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/</a><br></div><div>FRIAM-COMIC <a href="http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/">http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/</a> <br></div><div><br></div></blockquote><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div></body></html>