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<p>What about the systems/software aging/rot/refactoring analogy?
The similarities seem more *relevant* to the bulk of this group's
experience than, for example, cancer or infectious disease. Of
course, one's familiarity with the source of an analogy does not
make it more apt, just simultaneously more seductive and
*possibly* more illuminating. Or perhaps it *is* more apt
if/because the mechanisms in source/target domain are more
similar?<br>
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<p>I have my own issues with the misuse/abuse of analogy/metaphor
(seemingly orthogonal or or at least complementary Glen's).</p>
<p>While I don't think Marcus' observation is wrong... there ARE
people that are in the way (of various willful intentions) and a
share of them ARE in the government... but as pithy as it is, it
begs myriad questions...</p>
<p>Is the only/primary problem that individual human people can be
wrongheaded/selfish/thoughtless and thereby get in the way of
rightheaded/generous/thoughtful intentions? And is the "share"
of these people (holding positions?) in the government an
over-abundance? More than found in *any* institution? Is there
a *structural* problem that comes with the types of organization
which we seem to (for possibly inevitable reasons) create over and
over again? Are these structural problems addressable with
direct solutions (identifying and removing the offending
substructures manually?(re-organization/downsizing) adjusting the
milieu in which they exist in a preferential manner to reduce
those structure's viability while allowing/encouraging less
obstructionist structures to flourish? (regulatory environment)
?) <br>
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<p>One fundamental problem with the "cancer metaphor" is that it is
based on a "government is alive" metaphor which deserves it's own
scrutiny (though probably not summary dismissal?)</p>
<p>Regarding Dave's reference to the over/misuse of the Nazi trope,
I recently heard someone make the specific point that invoking
such immediately and thoroughly undermined the writer/speakers
credibility. Then they launched into the comparisons, but by
pulling back to "authoritarian gov't, autocrats, autocracies" with
Nazi/Hitler *examples* (and some Stalin and a few others mixed
in). I was left equally puzzled and impressed with the way that
was done, because in fact, the *image* of Nazi Germany and Hitler
are so strong that they can really power a point home, but using
Glen's primary (most common/notable/persuasive?) argument against
metaphor, it almost always comes with un/mis-intended "excess
meaning". This particular talk/essay (how is it I cant remember
what comes in through my eyes and what comes in through my ears?)
seemed to hit a very good balance in the number of hairs split to
make the point without being misleading.<br>
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<p>Is there any obvious resolution/relaxation to the tension between
the elements in socio-political-economic life which provide
structure and continuity and coherence and the individual
desire/instinct to avoid all constraint? <i>En Caricature</i>,
the extreme Libertarian seems to pretend that the can/should/will
solve all problems entirely by themselves and no larger human
organizational unit is necessary, desirable or more to the point,
possible. And on the other caricatured extreme is the absolute
collectivist who would have us all reduce our behaviour,
circumstance and will to that of (analogy alert!) a drone bee or
ant or termite in a hive.<br>
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<p>- Steve</p>
<p>PS. I've been loving watching the Jupiter/Saturn alignment
approach during the very, very brief moment between Sun-set and
Jupiter/Saturn-set... It is so close to MY horizon (Eastern edge
of the Pajarito Plateau) a few degrees above sea-level that I
*might* miss conjunction when it finally happens.<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Thanks for a return to literality. You know what's a cancer? Analogies to cancer are a cancer! >8^D
On December 18, 2020 8:31:24 PM PST, Marcus Daniels <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com"><marcus@snoutfarm.com></a> wrote:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">There are people that are in the way and a share of them are in
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