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<p class="MsoNormal">There are people that are in the way and a share of them are in government. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Friam <friam-bounces@redfish.com> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Prof David West<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 18, 2020 8:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> friam@redfish.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] 5 agencies compromised<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"There definitely *is* a deep state or, the term I prefer, an "administrative state". And I'm grateful for that *infrastructure*. Just like I'm grateful for the bench scientists at the FDA
and the employees at the counter of the DMV. That bureaucracy is not merely good because it achieves good things. It *is* civilization. It's our extended phenotype. It's flat out contradictory to love things like sports cars and space ships but hate things
like building codes, DMV queues, and mask mandates. We are the termites and the administrative state is our mound."</span></i><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">very poetic glen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I am in total agreement — except — The deep state is inflicted with a cancer, one that has been growing explosively, like all cancers. Call it "middle management" for want of a better term. Those
between the bench scientists and the DMV clerks and the President/Congress/Political Appointees. This cancer metastasized when Congress abrogated its responsibility legislate in favor of passing overly general laws and delegating law making (under the guise
of rule making) to the executive branch of government. Unlike a typical cancer, it is intelligent, willful, and malevolent. It seeks only its own interest. It took down Trump, not on behalf of populace, but purely because of self-preservation. It was relatively
easy to do because the man was so stupid.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">davew<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">On Fri, Dec 18, 2020, at 11:11 AM, uǝlƃ
</span><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">↙↙↙</span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> All effective conspiracy theories have some merit. I think that's what <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> makes them effective. Like good fiction, the micro expressions of <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> deception, con-man tactics, inference to the best explanation, creation <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> myths, and the positivist/generative component of science, conspiracy <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> theories rely on truth in a fundamental way. My favorite examples are <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> math proofs of things like 1=0. It seems to me they're focused examples <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> of Tarski's (and Gödel's) result, which essentially say you can't prove <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> something's true from *within* the language being used to prove that <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> truth.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> There definitely *is* a deep state or, the term I prefer, an <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> "administrative state". And I'm grateful for that *infrastructure*. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> Just like I'm grateful for the bench scientists at the FDA and the <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> employees at the counter of the DMV. That bureaucracy is not merely <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> good because it achieves good things. It *is* civilization. It's our <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> extended phenotype. It's flat out contradictory to love things like <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> sports cars and space ships but hate things like building codes, DMV <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> queues, and mask mandates. We are the termites and the administrative <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> state is our mound.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> The trick lying at the bottom of all critical thinking is to <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> continually back off a bit and see if/when one's little trip down any <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> given logical rabbit hole ... zoom out a bit and see if it's <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> reasonable. That's where we (especially our idealistic/wacko friends) <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> end up failing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> On 12/17/20 12:52 PM, Gary Schiltz wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> > Kind of makes you wonder if the "deep state" conspiracy theories have a bit of merit.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> > <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> > On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 3:29 PM Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> > <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> > I do wonder what work will look like after most of the small businesses fail.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> > <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> > "Didn't respond to police presence" -> "Didn't listen to the boss."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> > <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> > "Hey where did Jamie go? Last time I saw him was at that meeting.."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> -- <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> </span><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">↙↙↙</span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> uǝlƃ<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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