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<p>< If Marcus' nihilist view that "it is all levers" is more true than not, it explains why this grand experiment of "civilization" seems to be collapsing into a cesspool of it's own making, under it's own weight. ><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I\u2019m not sure why you call it nihilist. If some people are trying to change the world in a way I don\u2019t like, then there is no choice but to push back, especially when persuasion doesn\u2019t work. I\u2019m happy to give to charities that have products like \u201clegal
defense fund\u201d, even if it isn\u2019t tax deductible. Those organizations seek a goal I have, and I alone couldn\u2019t do it. Leverage. Sure in other cases one begins to have doubts, or mistrust the organizations, like with assured destruction. Even there, I\u2019m
down with that when it is Obama but not Trump. Believing civil persuasion is always possible is just not aligned with the real world.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Marcus <o:p></o:p></p>
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