<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Yeah, defnly no forgiveness needed on that one, Steve, <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It’s the way I would say it.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Eric</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Stephen Guerin <<a href="mailto:stephen.guerin@simtable.com" class="">stephen.guerin@simtable.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Eric, please forgive me if I over-simplified p15:<div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">"Universal metabolism is an ecosystem property</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">If the simplicity and universality of core metabolism and bioenergetics are expressed in ecosystems whereas they are not generally expressed at the level of organisms, metabolism is in some respects more a property of ecosystems as units of organization than a property of organisms."<br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 18, 2021, 9:40 AM Stephen Guerin <<a href="mailto:stephen.guerin@simtable.com" class="">stephen.guerin@simtable.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class="">Yeah, the second Jim Rutt Show we asked people to listen to was the extremist Eric Smith who claims life is an ecological property of the system and less a property of an individual :-) </div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 18, 2021, 8:59 AM uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ <<a href="mailto:gepropella@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">gepropella@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">[sigh] I'll never get that time back. I regret that you've now convinced me to listen to 2 Jim Rutt episodes. I've completely forgotten what the first one was about. And it's likely I'll forget this one, too. Rutt seems like a gentler Joe Rogan, who facilitates the insane ranting of his guests with so little curation as to make it useless *unless* you're *excited* by the people talking. ("Excited" in a good or bad way.) But I suppose I should give Rutt more of my ear time before I come to any conclusions. So I've added it to my feed.<br class="">
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Yarvin [ε] is one of the founders of the alt-right, a right wing "intellectual" troll whose sheer (admitted) intellect encourages him (and his hapless victims) toward the same ambiguous over-statement and over-confidence Trump has used so well. His con-man facade is obvious if you follow his speech/text patterns. To find the details he glosses, all you need to do is focus on where he laughs at his own jokes and veers hyperbolic in his claims. His uses of "fvck" and "sh¡t" are good places to start.<br class="">
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Good examples of his trolling can be found at Scott Aaronson's site: <a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.scottaaronson.com%2fblog%2f%3fp%3d3167%23comment-1732226&c=E,1,Q7_WztNA3BSkVYhBCNrT3Vy8Y16ArmRwPPVUq0B63phXM27w7hlzBYcDc18Lw-7TI2hyk_VboO6HD3yrOI0Wna8NciLx7gFS59KFTVd4iwOVAtXwcpycMx4bmJI,&typo=1" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=3167#comment-1732226</a><br class="">
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Credibility is about being careful in one's language and actions. Don't be fooled by those who throw tons of spaghetti at the wall. Of course if you throw more spaghetti, then more of your spaghetti will stick. Yarvin is, truly, incredible. Of course, just because you can't trust a con-man does *not* mean con-men aren't useful or that they shouldn't exist. It takes a village. And every village needs its Jesters and gimpy shamen.<br class="">
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<a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fqz.com%2f1007144%2fthe-neo-fascist-philosophy-that-underpins-both-the-alt-right-and-silicon-valley-technophiles%2f&c=E,1,Im_bI1RapMLssInRYVNXq8u7CrxNfcYdPZoQqE8hZVfzlDiVQv5m9IPLX1uzRoBXGI2TCDwy-csiZl6-bHZkPMO-f6r73Mi9mNqRCjUPEGWZR6rJYSmg408J4dc,&typo=1" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://qz.com/1007144/the-neo-fascist-philosophy-that-underpins-both-the-alt-right-and-silicon-valley-technophiles/</a><br class="">
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On 1/17/21 7:26 PM, <a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br class="">
> I am hoping to entrap one or more of you into listening to <a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.jimruttshow.com%2fcurrents-curtis-yarvin%2f&c=E,1,vmY_Re8C1I0E5i0caNUmr4GheDg2uaDx5UA5lAFwsPlk96aCBMmZjOiuaR7LUX6i4-Pw-t3uDyDFvI9ocKTQLDZ_hK8prfhJXS9fO96o_XpipMl4OMTkjJE,&typo=1" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://www.jimruttshow.com/currents-curtis-yarvin/</a> <<a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.jimruttshow.com%2fcurrents-curtis-yarvin%2f&c=E,1,8sW4wVsK6_ttCEVFqVXH77jZeBv2gObEhIMoFxnszU_o6F8iJsN7Dp7MFCvYPi9an-ArIXOnSdBPsRLe_WK_i-0nAO7SJgKihhJaAHTKZh699lYDEpSV2ndOn3Za&typo=1" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://www.jimruttshow.com/currents-curtis-yarvin/</a>> and helping me to resolve my ambivalence about it. Yarvin seems to be some sort of a libertarian, an attribution I make from his smug dismissiveness and his inability to speak without making reference to bowel and sexual function in every sentence. Also, his joy in goading us BHL’s by such assertions as, “FDR was a much worse liar than Donald Trump.” On the other hand, his diagnosis of the deep state and conflicts of interest that bind “experts’ are deeply troubling to me. He seems to make an argument for authoritarian government structures, praising the organization of the Manhattan project with that of NSF. Thus his take on FDR is that he was not a successful democratic leader but a skillful autocrat. He argues plausibly that the covid pandemic was the result of a US funded program Chinese research<br class="">
> program on SARS-related bat viruses when the infected ferrets there were working on were sold to the wet-market by the person who was supposed to euthanize them. The idea here is that the SARS program was continued, not because it was still needed, but because of the institutional and financial momentum provided by the US government for the Chinese Research. I would be much more convinced by what he is saying if he didn’t take so much pleasure in saying it.<br class="">
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