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<p>Russ -</p>
<p>I think you are suggesting that "better thread hygiene" would
allow/encourage you (and perhaps others) to participate
more/better? <br>
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<p>I experience (as well) that I give up on some threads when they
bend abruptly (even if I'm one of the worst offenders). When
Owen was present (or active) he tried to keep us (more) honest,
but it *does* feel that we have abandoned care on the topic.</p>
<p>As a minor bend, I have been studying the question of how the
paradigms developed in computer engineering (and allied fields)
for branching document/source/content management can be applied in
more real-world situations. This problem
(thread-wander/bending/splatter) is but one symptom. <br>
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<p>I hope we can do better here... <br>
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<p>- Steve<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/28/21 11:18 AM, Russ Abbott wrote:<br>
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still here. This thread illustrates why I rarely post these
days. I liked Nick's original post asking non-posters to say
something. But I found the ensuing discussion of spam not very
interesting. If that discussion were to be carried on at all,
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feature that you probably can't implement would be to allow
readers to mark threads as non-interesting, which would
exclude them from that reader's stream.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 10:04
AM uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ <<a href="mailto:gepropella@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">gepropella@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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all reminds me of a point I *thought* Jon made about the death
of the DJ. But now I can't find that post. A friend of mine
insists he hates the radio. On the surface, it sounds like a
typical complaint about being "constantly interrupted by
twelve dancing rabbits singing about toilet paper". But I
think it goes deeper ... into QAnon territory. Being *part* of
the game, as opposed to a mere consumer of it, is an important
part of social reality. Some of us spend more time in a state
of transcendent calm, content to watch or ignore some process.
Others tend to get in and stir things up, send out rhizomes.
Some of us feel helpless when the dancing rabbits come on, our
individualism shattered. Some of us revel in the absurdity of
it. And some of us sing along because the jingle is an ear
worm.<br>
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Scammers robocall me at least once per day. Inspired by the
many scambaiters on youtube, I almost always press 1 to get my
credit card rate lowered or to get that refund for the MacBook
I didn't buy and have a long-ish conversation with them. After
several attempts to get me to tell them my CC number [⛧], the
"manager" yesterday finally told me to "fvck off". I'm like
"You called me!?!" And he hung up. Ha! My time is even less
precious than theirs. I can't help but wonder what his
"employees" lives are like. Was the 1st guy on the call just
as much a victim of his boss as I am? More? Or do they all
live like Kings from the thousands of dollars they steal from
the elderly?<br>
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[⛧] We have this terrible noise problem on our landline that's
not due to unfiltered DSL. Renee' wants me to get rid of it.
I'm not motivated to because it helps me tease the scammers.
"Is that noise on your end? Hang on, let me try something ...
[set the phone down and reduce some sim output] ... Is that
better? Oh well, now what were you asking?"<br>
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On 1/28/21 9:29 AM, Steve Smith wrote:<br>
> I don't let my spam filter automatically file my spam...
I visually<br>
> scan the subjects and senders and depend on my peripheral
vision to<br>
> notice spam markers... if something is suspected spam but
*isn't* I<br>
> notice pretty close to real-time which means that there
isn't a lot of<br>
> negative reinforcement for false-positives. I also try
to be<br>
> thoughtful about what I mark as spam... I don't for
example, call things<br>
> I simply am not interested in as spam. Before I do a
"delete spam" or<br>
> "move marked to spam folder" I scan again, just on
principle... I *very*<br>
> rarely catch anything in that scan but you know "belt and
suspenders"....<br>
> <br>
> I try to limit who I "subscribe" to and then whack-a-mole
the allies<br>
> that seem to spill over. ActBlue and/or ButtigeigForPrez
and/or<br>
> BernieIsSoCoolItHurts seem to have gleefully given my
e-mail address to<br>
> another half-dozen or so other campaigns (DitchMitch,
MakeGeorgiaBlue,<br>
> OMGtheRedStatesAreComing, etc.) who then flooded me.
For a while they<br>
> were a hydra it seemed... and I WAS tempted to overtrain
my spam filter<br>
> and send it direct to a folder or trash but got through
it without doing<br>
> that. <br>
> <br>
> Finally, after November I started unsubscribing from the
campaigns I<br>
> knew I'd opted into (even if by sly accident) and
included an admonition<br>
> that if THEY were the source of all the side-spam, they
should rethink,<br>
> because it ended up *inhibiting* my support for their
cause(s)... though<br>
> I am not sure that was very significant.<br>
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On 1/28/21 9:18 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:<br>
> Some readers want novelty -- they are channel flippers --
and others are looking for an activity or even a process.
And then there is a range in between. I'd guess Roger and
Nick on opposite ends of that spectrum. I'm a channel
flipper until I see something that looks like an itch to
scratch or something to puzzle over -- a good distraction.<br>
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