<div dir="ltr">The spandrel is the place on the wall, whether it is decorated or not. <div><br><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><img src="cid:ii_kma3cro60" alt="image.png" width="220" height="119"></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div>The decorations are what can mislead you to thinking the architect went out of their way to create the spandrels. But the spandrel exists as a byproduct of trying to do two other things: 1) Have a square-topped structure, 2) support the structure with a dome. </div><div><br></div><div>Similarly, natural selection should be <i>expected </i>to produce many structures as a result of selection for unrelated factors. Just because a structure is common in a species doesn't mean that structure itself has been selected for, even if the structure - once present - has become elaborated in fancy ways. With this concept in hand, evolutionary biologists and evolutionary psychologists should be very cautious about asserting that common traits are adaptive. Even things you can show to have resulted from selection (rather than genetic drift or other processes) could still be mere byproducts of the intersection of other adaptive traits. </div><div><br></div><div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="mailto:echarles@american.edu" target="_blank"></a></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 12:20 AM Steve Smith <<a href="mailto:sasmyth@swcp.com">sasmyth@swcp.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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correction (arches/domes <b>vs spandrels</b>) are duals<br>
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<p>If we accept that contrivance or one like it, then the two
types of elements (arches/domes) are duals. <br>
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