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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">< I once knew a very intelligent determinist who argued that punishment was important nevertheless. It plays the same role as training for neural nets. Even though
the neural net mechanism is deterministic, it's useless without training. Punishment, and more generally child-rearing and education serve the same function for society. They make humans much more valuable members. All that is fully compatible with determinism.
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