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<p class="MsoNormal">“Tangential” would seem to understate the
case. Please reply here if you want to talk about Arnold’s
dangly bitsl Please please do not gum up a perfectly good
conversation about spandrels. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Nick </p>
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<p>In the case of the "ultimate spandrel", the working-parts of the
<b><i>pendentive</i></b> dome ARE the "dangly bits".</p>
<p>Once you take away *everything else but* the Spandrels, what do
you have? Whether their origin followed the traditional "just
so" story or my own contrived one (mesolithic stacking of
triangular liths by lith-worshipers), you have to admit that the
"spandrels" are doing all the heavy lifting in the structure, even
if you insist that what is being "utilized" is the negative spaces
of the arches and the zenith-dome.</p>
<p>I in the theme of DaveW's observations about whole-part evolution
tension, I am reminded of Glen's recent snark: "there IS no
individual". There is no whole, there are no parts, it's
self-organized systems (relations), all the way down?</p>
<p>As much as we seem to love to hate Stephen Wolfram, I think that
is what he's talking about in his "New Kind of Science:
Consciousness Edition" <br>
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<p align="center"><img
src="https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/data/uploads/2021/03/what-is-consciousness.png"
alt="What Is Consciousness?--Visual Summary—click to enlarge"
width="846" height="544"></p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2021/03/what-is-consciousness-some-new-perspectives-from-our-physics-project/">https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2021/03/what-is-consciousness-some-new-perspectives-from-our-physics-project/</a><br>
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<p>I think I "bent" EricC's bend of Nick's thread just a bit?... <br>
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alt="The Gordian knot of high school reform | The Thomas B.
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<p>Ramble,</p>
<p> - Steve<br>
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