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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/6/21 8:41 AM, Marcus Daniels
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<p class="MsoNormal">I understand there are periods where the
county can’t draw all of their available power and has
excess. I thought for sure the way to spend that was with
on-demand SHA256 miners. I convinced no one.
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<p>My CoOp (Jemez Valley Coop) used to promote (and sell at a
discount) electric resistance heaters with a huge masonry mass
built in as an incentive to get people to take time-of-day
metering... the idea was to build up a big ole store of thermal
energy during the nighttime (when it is also coldest) that would
then seep back into the house during the high-demand daytime. A
fair stopgap if your house was built without insulation and with
all-electric heating (think 1960s when power was cheap and
economies of scale suggested that more was always better).<br>
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<p>I use (sparingly) a similar distant cousin resistive oil-filled
electric heater to keep my bathroom (shadiest corner, least solar
gain, etc) of the house at a welcoming temp for guests. If I
were more diligent (and clever) I'd have a cryptocurrency rack in
my laundry room with water-cooling and the radiator in the
bathroom. It might pay for the energy in crypto output and give
me "free heat". Now I just need to arrange for it to give me
"free coolth" in the summer? I'm working on it.<br>
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<p>I hear that cryptocurrency (Proof Of Work) mining is at best a
break-even with power cost in most places, but a place like the
remote ghost town at the end of a Fjord in BC that has it's own
hydroelectric plant that *once* fed a paper mill, but shut down
when the endless tracts of trees they were cutting down ended,
seems to be the perfect place to churn negentropy out like candy
in Willie Wonka World? <br>
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<p>What is a cryptocurrency wallet filled with? Extremely
low-entropy information? Is there any way to exploit it except
by running it through *yet more* heat-generating/dissipating
systems? Surely there is a free lunch in there somewhere?
Libertarians like to mutter TANNSTAFL but I think it is more the
case that *my* free lunch is someone else's "gone hungry" day.
Synergy needs to be *real* not just obscured externalities and
exported waste/pollution and constant expansion into new frontiers
to exploit? Which is why I acknowledge that my Volt, when charged
from the grid is "a coal burner".<br>
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<p>- Steve<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Friam
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com"><friam-bounces@redfish.com></a> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Steve Smith<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 6, 2021 7:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:friam@redfish.com">friam@redfish.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] Hybrid cars<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Jochen & Other EV/Hybrid enthusiasts-<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Do you know where you electricity comes from? <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>When I got my Volt (Ampera to you) I had to acknowledge to my
purist friends that I was driving a "coal fired" vehicle
(since my Electric Coop is still mostly coal-fired). Of
course, free (or not always so free) markets are driving them
to phase out the major coal plant in the 4 Corners area (where
I apparently export *my* fossil fuel pollution and cause the
extraction of so much groundwater to sluice the coal from
mine to plant that the land is literally settling). I shook
my tiny fist at my Cooperative only to find that they were
constrained by a Public Regulatory Commission form building
and operating their own renewable sources (yup, we have a lot
of sun and wind) until 2025. MegaCorp regional electricity
corp has a monopoly on providing them (and me) power through
that date. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I had the option of buying salvage panels (originally from
Germany!) at $.10/watt ($30 for $300W) which is a *fraction*
of the new cost of such things, and at least doesn't drive the
extractive market, although it *does* relieve the burden on
the primary industry for handling a gigantic waste stream (for
operations and maintenance efficiency it seems commercial
installations of PV has a refresh cycle closer to 10 years
rather than the 20+ quoted to home users)).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>- Steve<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 4/6/21 3:16 AM, Jochen Fromm wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We have leased a new BMW 330e "plugin
hybrid" now which will replace our old BMW 1 series at the
end of the month. There are not enough charging stations
at the moment for a pure electric car like the BMW i3.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">From: Marcus
Daniels <a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com"
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<marcus@snoutfarm.com></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Date: 4/6/21
00:33 (GMT+01:00) <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">To: The
Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Subject: Re:
[FRIAM] The God Equation
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
have just a small Hybrid CMax now that gets about 45mph
instead of my old Hybrid Escape that got about 30mph.
But the next will be all electric!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">P.S.
QuantumScape is an interesting battery company. They’ve
gone public but they have no product yet! <o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b>
Friam
<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><friam-bounces@redfish.com></a>
<b>On Behalf Of
</b>Steve Smith<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 5, 2021 2:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">friam@redfish.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] The God Equation<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Marcus
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Humans
might be capable of deciding how to allocate energy. Or
we might just infest the solar system and beyond, paving
over everything. With a HPC/complexity mindset, I
tend to prefer big and direct approaches, myself. I
would be happy to drive around 1000hp electric hummer.
More motive to get fusion working!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>I too have always been mildly attracted to Big Iron (why
I came to LANL to work on the Proton Storage Ring and then
on the (Super)Computing Division that became HPC), but in
the bottom line I have always chosen my motorcycles (for
example) to be ones I could stand back up if they fell
over. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Regarding a 1000hp Hummer: My 4000lb Volt already seems
excessive (to me) for most purposes, but I am in the
market for hub-drive motor or two I can swap in under
wheels of my 1949 Ford Dump Truck (more big iron) and run
with the (salvaged out) battery from my Volt (16KWh of
Lithium mined from Columbia after Musk stated "we can coup
anyone we want"). Maybe graphene or nanopartical
solid-state batteries or hydrogen fuel-cell technology
will overtake Lithium Chemistry fast enough to make a
1000hp GWh Hummer less egregious than my Volt or the Gen1
Insight I tooled around in before that one.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Re: Fusion energy plant proliferation: There is one
HUGE fusion reactor in the sky flooding us with a wide
spectrum of radiation (albeit shielded nicely with an
endogenous magnetic field and an atmosphere suffused with
water vapor) which is fairly easy to harness for *heat*
and even the ever-fungible stored electric charge... <o:p>
</o:p></p>
<p>A half-dozen (salvaged) PV panels are enough to fill up
my Volt's puny battery in a day of good sunshine... your
Hummer is not going to get the same range (30-40 miles)
from the same KWh input (by half?). In the 1970s, a
mega-giga-hyper solar project in the AZ desert placed
thousands of mirrors in concentric circles with
heliostatic controls to focus on a central heating tower
(steam generator?)... *free energy!* everyone screamed
hysterically... but it had to shut down in just a few
years (as I remember it) because heat isn't the quantity
needed to generate power, but rather heat-flow, so they
were dumping scads of low-grade heat into the nearby
Colorado River (why they chose the location I believe, for
the cooling) to facilitate the power-generation...
eventually they were shown to be destroying (disrupting
badly?) the existing ecosystem in the river and even Baja
CA with all this "low grade" and "waste" heat. Thermal
fusion power plants are not going to do any more-better on
this count I don't expect. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Maybe direct electric-generation through fusion processes
might get around that problem. More tech is always the
most obvious answer to the failings/exacerbations of the
last round of tech. Maybe Iron-Man class of
miniaturization? <o:p></o:p></p>
<p> Deliberately misquoting Pogo - "I
have met the enemy and they is the Red Queen"<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b>
Friam
<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><friam-bounces@redfish.com></a>
<b>On Behalf Of
</b>Steve Smith<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 5, 2021 12:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">friam@redfish.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] The God Equation<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Marcus wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">That
was Glen. (My explanation is just that we have
limited short term memory and can’t tolerate any other
representation than terribly compressed forms. So it
is hard to gain confidence in simulations because we
can’t get them entirely in our heads, nor prove them
correct, nor reason very effectively about how
mutations will change their behavior. The natural
world has no such hesitation.)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><not-snark> I wonder if perhaps that "the natural
world" *does* have such hesitation in the sense you cop
to here... and suggest that when this happens it is
exactly what we call "life". We fat-brained humans
with elaborate language are just the (known) apex of
this process that bootstraps itself up some kind of
tower-of-babel style complexity (to increase our ability
to hold more and more and more qualitatively and
quantitatively "in our heads"). Clay tablets unto
nanodots (and beyond) and proto-abacii unto quantum
computers (and beyond) represent our progress toward
extending our phenotypes represent our attempts to
expand (transcend?) the reasons for our hesitation.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Is "life itself" and "consciousness" by extension,
somehow the urge (an inevitable self-organizing trend
itself?) toward a particular type of self-organization?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p></not snark><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>- Steve<o:p></o:p></p>
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