<div dir="auto">My friends in Mexico say the same. As my grandmother ( and all the other grandmas) used to say, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Why do we have excesses while poorer countries have shortages. I know that there are limits to the capacity to manufacture the vaccines but is a more equitable distribution not possible?<div dir="auto"><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">---<br>Frank C. Wimberly<br>140 Calle Ojo Feliz, <br>Santa Fe, NM 87505<br><br>505 670-9918<br>Santa Fe, NM</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, May 6, 2021, 2:33 PM Gary Schiltz <<a href="mailto:gary@naturesvisualarts.com">gary@naturesvisualarts.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Here is one reason to be interested: much of the world is still months, maybe years, away from getting access to vaccines. My adopted country of Ecuador as a case in point.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 12:52 PM Frank Wimberly <<a href="mailto:wimberly3@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">wimberly3@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">This does not seem interesting to me. The vaccines have been demonstrated to be effective and safe to very large degrees based on many millions of inoculations. Why should I care about some suspect studies with small n.<br><br><div>---<br>Frank C. Wimberly<br>140 Calle Ojo Feliz, <br>Santa Fe, NM 87505<br><br>505 670-9918<br>Santa Fe, NM</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, May 6, 2021, 11:33 AM <<a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal">Dear Phellow Phriammers, <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I have noted that most of what I have written here of late has been ignored, and that’s ok, actually. Usually, it is the possibility that you MIGHT read what I write that keeps me writing and, behaviorist to the last, writing is what I need to do in order to think. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">But this situation is different. I really don’t know what to think about <a href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Dragan-Pavlovic-4" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Pavlovic’s</a> paper. There may have been some trouble with the cloud version, so I have attached it to this message. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> So, this is a case where I really need some help. I realize that you are all engaged in this excellent correspondence about UBI, which has revealed all sorts of “-ists” that I never thought were alive and well in the world, let alone in this group. I would not interfere with that for a second. But, could a few of you take a look at his <a href="https://1drv.ms/w/s!AptIKbsAd7gjllccpq9yXXQ4hb2N?e=HCzjaV" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">paper</a> (very short, a commentary, actually). I think he is actually a candidate for this group. He is an MD, Phd, anaesthesiologist, retired in Paris, who has participated in hundreds of scientific papers, who is passionate ( I worry, perhaps sometimes a bit too passionate) about dozens of different things and suspicious of everything. He wants, for instance, to dig a gigantic tunnel to bring large ships directly from the danube to the Mediterranean. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> I, of course, live in a bubble, but I don’t like to have that fact thrust in my face as powerfully as when he reveals to me that the two HAAA=VUD papers denouncing Chloquoroquine were retracted a year ago, and I never found out. I can’t get any sense of whether there has been any attempt to revive them or to redo the original clinical study that suggested HCQ’s efficacy against CoVid. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Any little bit of help you could give me would be great. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Nick <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Nick Thompson<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:ThompNickSon2@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">ThompNickSon2@gmail.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/</span></a><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a> <<a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 5, 2021 9:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> 'Prof David West' <<a href="mailto:profwest@fastmail.fm" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">profwest@fastmail.fm</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Covid-Lancet-PART-2 (002).doc<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p>Dear Colleagues, <u></u><u></u></p><p><u></u> <u></u></p><p>I attach a <a href="https://1drv.ms/w/s!AptIKbsAd7gjllccpq9yXXQ4hb2N?e=HCzjaV" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">paper</a> written by an internet acquaintance I made some years back, Dragan Pavlovic. I am sending it along for two reasons. First, it reveals (to me, at least) that the two negative studies on Hydroxychloroquine use in SARS-CoVid-19 treatment were based on unverified data and were withdrawn by their authors almost immediately. (Have the rest of you known this for the last year and not told me? I cannot believe, after we pilloried poor Dave for advocating for it, that he has not gloated about it. ) Second, Pavlovic raises the intension/extension distinction in the context of the interpretation of scientific results and also questions Randomized Control Trials as the "Gold Standard" for discovery. Thus, I think he is a kindred spirit, being a bit of a grumpy contrarian like many of us here. I have promised to forward any comments you make to him, so be polite but speak truth. <u></u><u></u></p><p><u></u> <u></u></p><p>Thanks, <u></u><u></u></p><p><u></u> <u></u></p><p>Nick Nicholas Thompson<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Clark University<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:ThompNickSon2@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ThompNickSon2@gmail.com</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p><u></u> <u></u></p><p><u></u> <u></u></p><p><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div>- .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. .<br>
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