<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">The more, that the cart is a system-level outcome of compatibility of interfaces among what are just more desserts, all the way down, though of several different kinds….<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 6, 2021, at 5:29 AM, <<a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com" class="">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>> <<a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com" class="">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Oh, and …. this problem …<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;" class="">If that intuition is valid, then the only things Selection could ever rescue from chaos become those that get canalized into these ur- developmental “programs”, with defined roles for genes, and merely allelic variation within each role. I would like to find a formal way to frame that assertion as a question and then solve it.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">… is the one that keeps me awake at night.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Let me put it another way: When the waiter rolls up the dessert cart, you are so dazzled by choice between the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">crème caramel,</i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">tiramisu</i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and the chocolate<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">mousse<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></i>cake, that you never stop to wonder how the cart got created. <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Nick<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Nick Thompson<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="mailto:ThompNickSon2@gmail.com" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;" class="">ThompNickSon2@gmail.com</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwordpress.clarku.edu%2fnthompson%2f&c=E,1,0iKhIvGCCzqgnmccw-t_e5JcfkDw5ttDafp9sMWKcY2mOF6kPObh079ymbrvNaKzfHIOpXY2xngaM42cGn_DKygbJPB5s_r3lsJ-28sc0HDPxwe8dA,,&typo=1" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;" class="">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;" class="">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, May 5, 2021 2:01 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;" class="">friam@redfish.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: [FRIAM] (no subject)<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Jon,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Mostly your comments were out of my league. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">However, one probably irrelevant fragment caught my eye.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: 0.5in;" class="">W<span class="quotationChar" style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">hile Lamarckism wasn't right for Darwin… .</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Darwin always was a Lamarckian and became ever more so with every passing edition of the Origin. My favorite question in Biology orals was, “Who was the most famous Lamarckian?” <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I think you could say, with out contradiction<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: 0.5in;" class="">W<span class="quotationChar" style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">hile Lamarckism isn’t right for most contemporary Darwinians… .</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">… but evern that is becoming less true. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I think you are talking about Weismann and<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weismann_barrier" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;" class="">Weismann’s Barrier</a>? Lamarckism was definitely not right for Weisman.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Nick Thompson<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="mailto:ThompNickSon2@gmail.com" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;" class="">ThompNickSon2@gmail.com</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwordpress.clarku.edu%2fnthompson%2f&c=E,1,OGf5Hd-XUAmtZbmOWqNFbMKNL_pw_C1icR3NseffzQdYML75PIiPlJmHiNyqVgOvAcKnIasXY91lpDvTD7itw4rt1Jiz5FQLQ7IO42PH-DDut5Ef_Q,,&typo=1" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-----Original Message-----<br class="">From: Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;" class="">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> On Behalf Of jon zingale<br class="">Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 10:45 AM<br class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;" class="">friam@redfish.com</a><br class="">Subject: Re: [FRIAM] (no subject)<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">EricS,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Thank you for the kind and thoughtful response. Your 'three levels'<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">project is interesting to me and reminds me (even if only tangentially) of an analysis I worked on regarding food webs, n-species Lotka-Volterra, and ABMs. I wanted to clarify for myself what each level of analysis offered or bracketed relative to one another. There:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">1. Food webs were analyzed as weighted graphs with the obvious Markov chain interpretation[ρ]. Each edge effectively summarizing the complex predator-prey interactions found at level 2, but without the plethora of ODEs to solve.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">2. N-species Lotka-Volterra, while being a jumble of equations, offered dynamics. Here, one could get insight into how the static edge values of level 1 were in fact fluctuating values in n-dimensional phase space. But still, one is working with an aggregate model where species is summarized wholly by population count.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">3. ABMs, in theory, ought to be the whole story of individuals located in space and time. There the agents (a lynx, say) 'decides' what to eat based, perhaps, on what is most readily available. But as everyone on the list knows, analysis at such a fine-grained scale is simply a mess.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I never did get as far with the analysis as I would have liked, and I never got the chance to share my findings, so yeah, thanks for the tangential opportunity, here and now, to say just this much.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">1'. "site-rewrite rules in Walter Fontana’s site-graph abstractions"<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Fleshing out some of your references, I found this Fontana paper[σ].<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">As you suggest, the style is fairly straightforward category theory.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Site-graphs and their morphisms form a well-defined category and a number of universal constructions (push-outs, pullbacks, cospans,...) are used to analyze the algebra and to establish its logic.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">2'. "There is still an algebra of operation of reactions, but it is simpler than the algebra of rules, and mostly about counting."<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I am not entirely sure that I follow the distinction. Am I far off in seeing an analogy here to the differences found between my one and two above? I would love to have a facility with stochastic techniques like these, but I most likely will need to remain a spectator for the rest of my days. Occasionally, I meet LANL folk that can talk Feller and Fokker with ease, and I am always jealous. It would be great to even have a better understanding of where Lie groups (something I can at least think about) meet the stochastic world.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">3'. "So the state space is just a lattice. The “generator” from Level 2 is the generator of stochastic processes over this state space, and it is where probability distributions live."<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Please write more on this. By 'just a lattice' do you mean integer-valued on account of the counts being so? Is the state space used to some extent, like a modulii/classifying space, for characterizing the species of reactions? I feel the fuzziest on how this level and the 2nd relate.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I am thankful to have had drinks with Artemy on a number of occasions, though I am embarrassed to have never asked him to blow my mind, as he could so easily have done.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I am working, slowly, through Valiant's discussion of evolvability problems regarding monotone disjunction and parity. I will hopefully have more to say soon. One thing that stands out for me is the idea that Lamarck could be so right, but about the wrong thing, a concept in search of a problem. While Lamarckism wasn't right for Darwin, it was fine for perceptrons.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">"""<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">If that intuition is valid, then the only things Selection could ever rescue from chaos become those that get canalized into these ur- developmental “programs”, with defined roles for genes, and merely allelic variation within each role. I would like to find a formal way to frame that assertion as a question and then solve it.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">"""<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Yes, that would be very exciting.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Cheers,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Jon<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">ps. I wrote Nick and Frank about a dream a day or two before your post, where I found myself sitting with a figure that kept morphing between Chris Kempes and Marcus. The figure was attempting to explain a Turing complete ball game to me. I appreciate the synchronicity.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">[ρ] Here, I mostly followed Levine's approach to computing trophic level.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/002251938090288X" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none;" class="">https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/002251938090288X</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">[σ]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://arxiv.org/pdf/1901.00592.pdf" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); 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