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<p>Lazily composing at least two upshots of this conversation (and
the smart-contract parallel one):</p>
<p>1) I think Russ brought up what *I* thought was implicit in
Reciprocity (though I understand why it is not since I borrowed
my use of the term from gift economies, not adhering to the
(obvious) mathematical meaning that most here would jump to): My
intended connotation of Reciprocity included both "spirit of
generosity and gratitude", so it is excellent that those were
called out as possibly essential (or at least efficient?) in
improving the state of our relations.</p>
<p>2) Glen opened the question of "transitivity" which I think you
(Jon) are addressing here with good motivation. In my
smart-contract considerations, the point would be that the values
one attached to "raw value" (money/crypto¢) in their transactions
would propogate through. For example, food stamps cannot
(directly) be redeemed for non-food items (specifically alcohol,
tobacco, pet food, sunglasses) and if I paid a 500% surcharge on
the few gallons of petrol I run through my Extended Range EV as a
way to decline to participate in A) blood for oil wars and B)
clubbing baby seals in the arctic, those crypto¢ would *avoid* the
pockets of the warmongers and seal-clubbers and settle in the
pockets of those who went to the effort to get their oil without
that. Of course, just like there can be black/grey markets in
food stamps "hey buddy, I'll give ya $.50 on the dollar for those
food stamps!", there would surely appear
money-changers/launderers who would *try* to cross-connect the
drinking water with the black water for their own profits. In
principle, pervasive use of smart contracts *could* make that
vanishingly harder and harder with adoption.</p>
<p>3) I knew "at least" would come in handy. My intuitive
conception of Reciprocity is that it is as much about back as
forward propogation. SteveG will love the opportunity for a Dual
Field encoding I think. By taking Renee to dinner for Mother's
Day, he not only acts as a proxy for her own children in some
sense, I would like to believe he did it *because* Renee's
motherhood has already been her gift to him... whatever benefits
he gets from a step-role, from Renee being a better partner having
raised children, etc. and that dinner is to honor and reciprocate
for something he has *already received* from her (see 1 above,
"gratitude").</p>
<p>The spectral graph and circuit analysis Jon points to may well be
useful/important for measurement/analysis of how well a system is
working. Ideally the implementation is entirely local in the
sense of agents on networks of transactions. <br>
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<p>Smart contracts are an implementation of distributed computation
where computation (complex decision making) is deferred to the
last (or most appropriate) place in the network. For example, the
fueling depot that accepts my anti-war/anti-ANWR crypto¢ for
petrol passes it to his wholesale source which passes it through
the "circuit".... the gas pump owner doesn't need to know (or
share or even have an opinion on) what "values" are embedded in my
crypto¢, he simply takes his "service cut" on the transaction as
does each other middleman right up to the guy gently scooping
teaspoons of bubbling crude out of an artesian well to run through
his handmade still. His still produces no better (maybe worse)
heptane/octane than BP or ARCO but he *still* gets paid
(ultimately by me) for so gently milking the dino juice from the
earth for me.</p>
<p>- Steve<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/11/21 3:21 PM, jon zingale wrote:<br>
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I have failed to follow this discussion very closely. That said,
to what extent could frameworks like those that underlie <a
href="https://github.com/cdebacco/SpringRank" target="_top"
rel="nofollow" link="external" moz-do-not-send="true">spring
rank</a> or gauge-theoretic <a
href="https://arxiv.org/pdf/0908.3043.pdf" target="_top"
rel="nofollow" link="external" moz-do-not-send="true">price as
curvature</a> give reasonable characterizations of reciprocity
over circuits? To what extent does <a
href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/002251938090288X"
target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external"
moz-do-not-send="true">Levine's</a> (painfully straightforward)
solving for eigenstates?
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* Apologies for any paywalls, I am often stymied to find better
access. <br>
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