<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Stephen, I am SO GLAD you jumped in on this, because you're right! Thanks for bringing me up to date.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 12:23 PM Stephen Guerin <<a href="mailto:stephen.guerin@simtable.com">stephen.guerin@simtable.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"> I don't think drones aren't an efficient choice for detection. Stationary PTZ cameras on ridgetops and citizen phone camera reporting along with 911 calls are soon enough. Where drones are valuable preliminary mapping to fill in gaps of existing camera viewsheds to get an early sizeup.<br><br>We are working with <a href="http://www.alertwildfire.org" target="_blank">www.alertwildfire.org</a> to calibrate their 1000 cameras on the ridgetops in the 5 western states of CA, OR, WA, ID and NV. Our bit is solving for camera pose based on observations of stars to solve for the 9 degrees of freedom of a camera (x, y, z, yaw, pitch, roll, horiz field of view, vert field of view and lens distortion)<br><br>You can see a map of the cameras that we have robotic control of hear with historical imagery:<br> <a href="http://www.alertwildfire.org/tahoe/index.html?camera=Axis-SodaRidge1&v=7a7f1c3" target="_blank">http://www.alertwildfire.org/tahoe/index.html?camera=Axis-SodaRidge1&v=7a7f1c3</a><br><br>Once a camera is calibrated each pixel maps to a lat/long if it intersects the terrain or triangulating 3D points with multiple cameras for sky-based features. <br><br>You can see how we detect locations of fire starts after lightning strikes on the LNU Complex last summer in Sonama here:<br> <a href="https://youtu.be/oVAwvs4k1n0" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/oVAwvs4k1n0</a><br><br>All compute and modeling/sim is in the browser with the camera projections using WebGL and rendering to 3D terrain.<br><br>And how we track perimeters on this example Adams Fire here:<br> <a href="https://youtu.be/lP7-UhZQ4IY" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/lP7-UhZQ4IY</a><br><br>And here is some live AI looking for smoke in Sonoma that we then map:<br> <a href="https://fire.aiir.ai/sonoma" target="_blank">https://fire.aiir.ai/sonoma</a><br><br>We can also calibrate ad hoc imagery coming from citizens based on common features in already calibrated images or by geopoints or the stars. Here's an example on the Maria Fire where we took imagery from Twitter from a private pilot and a second imager from citizen near the freeway.<br> <a href="https://youtu.be/aJpgDzFhXng" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/aJpgDzFhXng</a><br><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">_______________________________________________________________________<br><a href="mailto:stephen.guerin@simtable.com" target="_blank">Stephen.Guerin@Simtable.com</a><div>CEO, Simtable <a href="http://www.simtable.com/" target="_blank">http://www.simtable.com</a><br><div>1600 Lena St #D1, Santa Fe, NM 87505<div><div>office: (505)995-0206 <span style="font-size:12.8px">mobile: (505)577-5828</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">twitter: @simtable</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><a href="http://zoom.com/j/5055775828" target="_blank">z</a><a href="http://oom.simtable.com" target="_blank">oom.simtable.com</a></span></div><div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 11:54 AM Pieter Steenekamp <<a href="mailto:pieters@randcontrols.co.za" target="_blank">pieters@randcontrols.co.za</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">from wikipedia <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_biology" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_biology</a><div><br></div><div><p style="margin:0.5em 0px;color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"><b>Synthetic biology</b> (<b>SynBio</b>) is a multidisciplinary area of research that seeks to create new biological parts, devices, and systems, or to redesign systems that are already found in nature.</p><p style="margin:0.5em 0px;color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">It is a branch of science that encompasses a broad range of methodologies from various disciplines, such as <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biotechnology" title="Biotechnology" style="color:rgb(6,69,173);background-image:none;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">biotechnology</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_engineering" title="Genetic engineering" style="color:rgb(6,69,173);background-image:none;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">genetic engineering</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_biology" title="Molecular biology" style="color:rgb(6,69,173);background-image:none;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">molecular biology</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_engineering" title="" style="color:rgb(6,69,173);background-image:none;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">molecular engineering</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_biology" title="" style="color:rgb(6,69,173);background-image:none;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">systems biology</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_lipid_bilayer" title="Model lipid bilayer" style="color:rgb(6,69,173);background-image:none;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">membrane science</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biophysics" title="Biological systems" style="color:rgb(6,69,173);background-image:none;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">biophysics</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_engineering" title="Biological engineering" style="color:rgb(6,69,173);background-image:none;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">chemical and biological engineering</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_engineering" title="Electrical engineering" style="color:rgb(6,69,173);background-image:none;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">electrical and computer engineering</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_engineering" title="Control engineering" style="color:rgb(6,69,173);background-image:none;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">control engineering</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_biology" title="Molecular engineering" style="color:rgb(6,69,173);background-image:none;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">evolutionary biology</a>.</p><p style="margin:0.5em 0px;color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">Due to more powerful <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_engineering" title="Genetic engineering" style="color:rgb(6,69,173);background-image:none;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">genetic engineering</a> capabilities and decreased DNA synthesis and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_sequencing" title="DNA sequencing" style="color:rgb(6,69,173);background-image:none;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">sequencing costs</a>, the field of synthetic biology is rapidly growing. In 2016, more than 350 companies across 40 countries were actively engaged in synthetic biology applications; all these companies had an estimated net worth of $3.9 billion in the global market.<sup id="gmail-m_7756870331096813476gmail-m_5224107263918019086gmail-cite_ref-1" style="line-height:1;unicode-bidi:isolate;white-space:nowrap;font-size:11.2px"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_biology#cite_note-1" style="color:rgb(6,69,173);background-image:none;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">[1]</a></sup></p></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 25 May 2021 at 19:49, Merle Lefkoff <<a href="mailto:merlelefkoff@gmail.com" target="_blank">merlelefkoff@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Marcus, I don't understand your term "synthetic biology."</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 10:24 AM Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com" target="_blank">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">So we move from chemical engineering to synthetic biology. There will always be mistakes.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Marcus, we've been "experimenting" with our terrestrial biome for at least 10-12,000 years (when the first spade hit the ground). The time for more experiments is over....unless they are experiments
that help us understand even more deeply how to restore the Mycelium networks so that the fungi can solve our climate change challenge. This is perhaps the most important task that will save us from extinction. See Merlin Sheldrake's book, "Entangled Life"
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<p>My father dedicated his life to "forest management" as a professional forester, trained in biology and range/timber management. He retired "early" after 30 years somewhat in disgust over the changing of aesthetics and perspectives of the United States
Forest Service. He was dedicated and loyal to the spirit of Aldo Leopold and other early conservationists. He spent multiple multi-week segments every summer leading (most Zuni and Hopi native) fire-crews on the West Coast trying ot protec homes and "valuable
timber". We lived on the edge of the first Wilderness (Gila) created (at the behest of Aldo Leopold) for 2/3 of my growing up years. My father died 10 years ago (Alzheimers), was cremated, and we (illegall) spread his cremains in the heart of the Gila with
a minor amount of guilt as he was a (nearly) strict rule follower (yet asked for this). Within the year, a serious wildfire complex converged at almost the exact spot we scattered him (woooOoooooo!).
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<p>Even my Trump-voting (2016) sister and husband are now acknowledging that his life/profession were dedicated to a project that was fundamentally "unwise". They *were* (for the most part) doing the best they knew how. Most everything they did (from stopping
wildfires at the first opportunity) to running dual bulldozers across landscapes with a chain between them to clear the juniper trees from a landscape to allow more grass (for cattle) to grow was "well intended", but it was *range* and *timber* management
not "grassland" and "forest" management as they called it. The goal was to maximize the "productivity" of the public lands under their management (dept of Agriculture_. The Bureau of Land Management (BLM dept of Interior) was know to be *worse* in the sense
that their rules on cattle and mining were much less careful of protecting the landscape and biome. The National Parks were derided by both the Forest Service and the BLM for being "much too restrictive" (no "harvesting of resources"!!!!)
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<p>And yet NOW we realize how "unwise" all of that was. But in the same breath we suggest that all of our exploitative depradations of the planet's "resources" are necessary and possibly "a really good thing"... and I am sure that in another 20 or 50 years
we will be lamenting *all* of the things that today we are promoting wholeheartedly in the name of "progress".
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<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/14/california-fire-suppression-forests-tinderbox" target="_blank">https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/14/california-fire-suppression-forests-tinderbox</a><br>
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<p><span style="font-size:88.5pt;border:1pt none windowtext;padding:0in">B</span><span style="border:1pt none windowtext;padding:0in">efore this unprecedented era of mega-blazes on the US west coast, California’s forests had a canny, ingenious way of avoiding
destructive worst-case forest fire scenarios. By periodically removing the grasses, shrubs and young trees – known as the forest understory – <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/california" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(203,71,0)">California</span></a> avoided
fires growing to destructive intensities before the 20th century. The way this was done? Fire.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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Every five to 15 years, groundfires would burn through the forest, killing off the undergrowth on a regular basis, thus removing the material that can act as tinder and kindle fires. Such groundfires were sparked by lightning or by indigenous people who used
sophisticated burning practices to facilitate crop growing and hunting. Because the fires occurred frequently, the understory rarely had time to build up enough combustible material for the fires to reach the canopies of the mature trees – which is what causes
the large, devastating fires we are seeing now. As a result, overstory trees might get wounded by the groundfires, but they would rarely get killed.<u></u><u></u></p>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D.<br>Center for Emergent Diplomacy<br><a href="http://emergentdiplomacy.org" target="_blank">emergentdiplomacy.org</a></div><div>Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA</div><div></div><div><br>mobile: (303) 859-5609<br>skype: merle.lelfkoff2<br></div><div>twitter: @merle110<br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>