<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">It was the two tin cans that zoom and Webex were modeled on, as Marcus noted.  The design presumes there is a dichotomy between speaker and listener roles at every moment.<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 4, 2021, at 5:01 AM, Barry MacKichan <<a href="mailto:barry.mackichan@mackichan.com" class="">barry.mackichan@mackichan.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">


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<div style="font-family:sans-serif" class=""><div style="white-space:normal" class=""><br class=""><p dir="auto" class="">I can send you two tin cans, but I’m having trouble finding enough string.</p><p dir="auto" class="">—Barry</p><p dir="auto" class="">On 3 Jun 2021, at 13:15, uǝlƃ ☤>$ wrote:</p>
<blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #777; color:#777; margin:0 0 5px; padding-left:5px" class=""><p dir="auto" class="">I don't think a hybrid is a good idea. I can see how maybe 1 remote node might fold into a meatspace group, but not ≥2. You might consider just keeping the virtual one available if remotes want to use it. And if nobody uses it, eliminate it.<br class="">
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Personally, I think you should simply stop the virtual one when you start up the meatspace one ... go back to the olden times, when coffee was real with full multiplex point-to-point comms aplenty.<br class="">
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On 6/3/21 6:16 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote:</p>
<blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #777; color:#999; margin:0 0 5px; padding-left:5px; border-left-color:#999" class=""><p dir="auto" class="">Also Nick now that he has gone to Mass.<br class="">
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On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 7:15 AM Frank Wimberly <<a href="mailto:wimberly3@gmail.com" class="">wimberly3@gmail.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wimberly3@gmail.com" style="color:#999" class="">mailto:wimberly3@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br class="">
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    The Coffee Shop at St John's College in Santa Fe opens at 9:00am daily.  Assuming we want to meet there we have the decision about whether and how remote participants can attend.  I hope a discussion here reaches a consensus.  Barry, Dave, Glen and Eric are among those who have been attending remotely.</p>
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