<div dir="ltr">Nick, I'm not sure I follow your logic. It seems you imply behaviour cannot be caused by genes? Help me if I understand you wrong. The way I see it is that the behaviour of the prairie dogs is caused mainly by their genes, that's why it changes very slowly. <br><br>Human behaviour on the other hand is caused to a much larger extent, but certainly not exclusively, we are not born blank slates, by culture that's why it changes much faster.<br><br><br><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 at 17:36, <<a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="gmail-m_2190581091264215673WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">Dispatch from the bog. Assumption that behavioral adaptation is necessary quicker than genetic gratuitous STOP in region of west where there have been no rattle snakes for a zillion years, prairie dogs still have behavioral defenses long after their venom resistance has faded STOP yes I can think of other explanations STOP there are always other explanations STOP Also, genes are relations not things STOP<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Nick <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Nick Thompson<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:ThompNickSon2@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">ThompNickSon2@gmail.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/</span></a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pieter Steenekamp<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 8, 2021 12:40 AM<br><b>To:</b> The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] gene-culture coevolution<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">The paper makes intuitive sense for me. Human traits are a complex function of genes and culture. Genetic evolution has stopped, or is very weak, and culture is evolving very fast. The changes in future human traits will therefore almost exclusively be determined by cultural evolution.<br><br>But, this is assuming humans are not going to modify their genes, or the genes of their children. With current technology it's probably very risky to do that, but what will the future hold? <u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 at 04:25, Prof David West <<a href="mailto:profwest@fastmail.fm" target="_blank">profwest@fastmail.fm</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal">I have been trying to make the point about culture - not only for evolution, but for cognition as well. Had many an argument with Nick on this topic at Mother Church.<br><br>davew<br><br><br>On Mon, Jun 7, 2021, at 2:17 PM, uǝlƃ <span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Symbol",sans-serif">☤</span>>$ wrote:<br>> Researchers: Culture drives human evolution more than genetics<br>> <a href="https://phys.org/news/2021-06-culture-human-evolution-genetics.html" target="_blank">https://phys.org/news/2021-06-culture-human-evolution-genetics.html</a><br>> <br>> Paywalled Paper:<br>> <a href="https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2021.0538" target="_blank">https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2021.0538</a><br>> <br>> Accessible version:<br>> <a href="https://digitalcommons.library.umaine.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1039&context=eco_facpub" target="_blank">https://digitalcommons.library.umaine.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1039&context=eco_facpub</a><br>> <br>> -- <br>> <span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Symbol",sans-serif">☤</span>>$ uǝlƃ<br>> <br>> - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. .<br>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<br>> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 <a href="http://bit.ly/virtualfriam" target="_blank">bit.ly/virtualfriam</a><br>> un/subscribe <a href="http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com" target="_blank">http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com</a><br>> FRIAM-COMIC <a href="http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/</a><br>> archives: <a href="http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/" target="_blank">http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/</a><br>> <br><br>- .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. .<br>FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<br>Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 <a href="http://bit.ly/virtualfriam" target="_blank">bit.ly/virtualfriam</a><br>un/subscribe <a href="http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com" target="_blank">http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com</a><br>FRIAM-COMIC <a href="http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/</a><br>archives: <a href="http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/" target="_blank">http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/</a><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div></div></div>- .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. .<br>
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