<div dir="auto">I would go to California and stay in the Claremont Hotel in Berkeley. That gives you San Francisco and the Pacific in addition to Berkeley. Then drive to Lake Tahoe where you are close to the Lake, the Nevada desert, and the Sierra Nevada. Sorry, no swamps. But I'm biased.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br><div dir="auto"><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">---<br>Frank C. Wimberly<br>140 Calle Ojo Feliz, <br>Santa Fe, NM 87505<br><br>505 670-9918<br>Santa Fe, NM</div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 1, 2021, 2:15 PM Pieter Steenekamp <<a href="mailto:pieters@randcontrols.co.za">pieters@randcontrols.co.za</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Yochen, just a comment on your misgivings about Florida being Trump-country.<br><br>When I visited Miami the very first time many years ago, it was mainly English-speaking Americans with minority Hispanics. Later it became sort of 50-50 and lately it's more like a Hispanic city with minority "traditional" English speaking Americans. A significant portion of the Hispaninics are from Cuba and they seem to loath communism and are attracted to the Republican party.<br>All I'm saying is that the Repubilcan support in Miami specifically is maybe not the stereotype Trump Maga people?<br><br>Maybe I'm wrong in my interpretation, if someone wants to correct me, I'm open to learn more and change my mind about this. I certainly don't claim to be an expert on American culture, I'm just sharing my personal experience in Miami.<br><br>Pieter</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 1 Jul 2021 at 20:57, Pieter Steenekamp <<a href="mailto:pieters@randcontrols.co.za" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">pieters@randcontrols.co.za</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I couldn't agree more - Boston is my personal favorite US city.<br><br>Nothing against Harvard, it's okay, if you're there you obviously have to visit there, but personally I treasure many visits to MIT. I'm not an academic, but I really enjoyed my many visits to the MIT campus. <br><br>But then, if you appreciate art, my wife and daughters would tell you not to miss the Isabella Stewarrt Gardner museum in Boston. It's not only the art, but the story of this "moderately rich" woman of a previous age.<br><br>Just a story about New York. On one of our visits we stayed in an affordable hotel in Queens. The first evening there we ate at a pizza place nearby. My wife looked around and asked "where are the Americans?" We saw people that seemed to be from all over the world there. My son answered - Mom, these are the Americans!. New York is truly cosmopolitan!</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 1 Jul 2021 at 20:06, Jochen Fromm <<a href="mailto:jofr@cas-group.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jofr@cas-group.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Boston is not a bad idea. It is an old city which is the home of Harvard and M.I.T., and certainly has a lot of museums and culture. It must have bookshops and libraries. And apparently it has affordable hotels too, for instance this one which looks nice</div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.nantasketbeachresort.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.nantasketbeachresort.com</a></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-J.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br></div><div align="left" dir="auto" style="font-size:100%;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Pieter Steenekamp <<a href="mailto:pieters@randcontrols.co.za" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">pieters@randcontrols.co.za</a>> </div><div>Date: 7/1/21 10:12 (GMT+01:00) </div><div>To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">friam@redfish.com</a>> </div><div>Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The Dream of Florida </div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr">I've spent about 8 months in total in the US on different trips both for pleasure and work and visited a number of states.<br><br>Every person is different, so I don't really want to give a recommendation, but if parallel universes do exists and I could recommend myself in another universe that has not been to the US, I would recommend to do the East Coast, including maybe a subset (I would not include too much for one visit) of Boston, New York, Washington and then Kennedy Space Centre, Fort Lauderdale and Miami in Florida.<br><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Thu, 1 Jul 2021 at 08:15, Jochen Fromm <<a href="mailto:jofr@cas-group.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jofr@cas-group.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">We are planning a vacation in the USA next year, if we are still healthy and do not lose our jobs. What do you think is the best sunshine state to relax, Florida or California? Or maybe New Mexico? The best time for Florida is probably spring or early summer before the hurricanes? Or is Florida in a crisis now too?</div><a href="https://slate.com/business/2021/06/miami-condo-collapse-florida-building-industry-crisis.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://slate.com/business/2021/06/miami-condo-collapse-florida-building-industry-crisis.html</a><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-J.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div>- .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. .<br>
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