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    EricS<br>
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      <div class="">Fascist Quorum Sensing</div>
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    <p>When 'Q' emerged in the right wing popular attention, I did make
      a brief connection with "Quorum" in the sense you reference  it,
      though more specifically as Bee Swarm/Nest trigger/choice.  
      Having once been a holder of a DOE 'Q' clearance, the very idea
      that that level/style of clearance would give him the kind of
      insider information attributed to him/her/them was absurd.   Some
      of the other clearances, *maybe*, but not obviously the 'Q'.<br>
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    <p>The news today with the lame-O-bomber wannabe kicked off another
      round of DHS/domestic-terror-watch warnings that another "quorum"
      is trying to rise up.   The (liberal) news media is giving
      lip-service to not "amplifying" his signal, etc.</p>
    <p>Seems like something similar  (but not responsibly scientific)
      about how the Taliban was able to flip the whole country almost
      overnight is afoot.   <br>
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    <p>- SteveS<br>
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      <div class="">(For those who don’t do this for a living, the
        reference is to the phenomenon in bacteria like Anthrax (B.
        anthracis), which will multiply inside a victim for many
        generations with no real chemical activity besides a normal
        parasitic metabolism, but will secrete signaling chemicals.
         When those chemicals hit a threshold concentration because the
        population has multiplied enough, which the bacteria all know
        because they all have the same genome, they switch state, turn
        on the chemical attack machinery, and dissolve the victim on a
        timescale far too short for any inflammatory or immune response
        to do much about them.)</div>
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      <div class="">Google does not show anyone as having used it yet,
        even though it is a no-brainer.</div>
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      <div class="">The idea being to say something productive about the
        abruptness of it all.  </div>
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      <div class="">From Gingrich and Norquist up through end-2020, the
        right thought its best strategy was to do the usual dissembling
        and dogwhistling, just at higher intensity.  Something has
        switched and they think this —specifically — is the time to make
        a run for it and to parade the fascism instead.  </div>
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      <div class="">While the strategic-games crowd (and military people
        etc.) will say they have long written about shifting modes, the
        idea that there can be an unplanned component at the popular
        level akin to quorum sensing might have something to be said of
        it.</div>
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      <div class="">Even on the question of whether trump mattered, I
        can see a sort of SFI angle on it, with the idea of “slow
        timescale variables” that Jessica Flack makes central to the
        rubric that for a while (perhaps still) she was calling
        “construction dynamics”.  The idea that a sort of
        order-parameter stuck thing can smooth out fluctuations and make
        an inference problem easier and more stable, or a transition in
        domains more likely.  Here the fast variables would have been
        the Lindsay Graham characters, who flutter like day-traders
        among all possible positions, trying to guess from minute to
        minute what is safe.  Those guys would not have put Steven
        Miller’s face on TV, because they would have judged that he was
        too ugly to use.</div>
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      <div class="">Enter trump, whose 2024 motto can be “The Worse, The
        Better”, who said “I can make ugly work.”  But it didn’t change
        the system state in a few months, or even in a year.  The
        flutterers took years of reassurance, and a couple of election
        cycles, before they switched from the lysogenic to the lytic
        phase.  Without trump as a slow variable, would the flutterers
        have continued to flutter a while longer?  Can one say anything
        about that that has any scientific worth, and isn’t just firing
        off buzzwords?</div>
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      <div class="">Eric</div>
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            <div class="">On Aug 20, 2021, at 7:53 AM, Marcus Daniels
              <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com" class=""
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              wrote:</div>
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                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Eric writes:<o:p
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                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
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                  <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                    Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">“I have wondered
                    whether trump in the presidency was like an adjuvant
                    in a vaccine.  Just having the antigen leaves room
                    for highly variable responses, because if you don’t
                    manage the inflammatory response that initiates the
                    immune response, you have only a weak control
                    system.  Trump was so awful in so many dimensions
                    that he triggers inflammation in those who would
                    have remained asleep under Clinton.”<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                  <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                    Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
                  <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                    Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The mask protests
                    like this one..<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                  <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                    Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
                  <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                    Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a
href="https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2021/08/19/mask-wars-unrest-flores-pkg-dlt-vpx.cnn"
                      style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"
                      class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2021/08/19/mask-wars-unrest-flores-pkg-dlt-vpx.cnn</a><o:p
                      class=""></o:p></div>
                  <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                    Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
                  <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                    Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">..strike me as
                    something that M. Night Shyamalan could not even
                    invent.   Say the guy at 1:40.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                  <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                    Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I should be thinking
                    of these folks as my fellow citizens?   Really?<o:p
                      class=""></o:p></div>
                  <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                    Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
                  <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                    Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Is it just me or is
                    maybe the “inflammation” getting a little out of
                    control?  For example,<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                  <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                    Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">the other day I was
                    driving down a narrow part of the road in my
                    residential area and pulled off to the side to let a
                    car pass that was coming the other way.   He (white
                    middle-aged man) was not signaling, but as soon as I
                    spent five seconds off the side to let him pass he
                    started screaming at me and waving his fist out the
                    car window.   Apparently I had dared to block his
                    driveway.   Is it really that hard for some people
                    to get through their day?<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                  <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                    Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
                  <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                    Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">It increasingly seems
                    to me that maybe there is just all this crazy just
                    below the surface, and all that can be done is to
                    keep the inflammation down.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                  <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                    Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
                  <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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