<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thanks Steve,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I hadn’t heard about this latest little bit of lunacy. Marcus is right; what must the guy’s life be like that, to very likely end up in jail for not really anything seemed like a good idea?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Martin Scheffer ought to be all over this, with his “early warning signals”, using analysis of the magnitude-frequency distributions of collective fluctuations to predict “tipping points”. We hear about Rosa Parks. We don’t (unless we work in the area) understand the long string of events that preceded, and in important ways, led up to Rosa Parks and made the event she precipitated possible.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Eric</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 20, 2021, at 10:17 AM, Steve Smith <<a href="mailto:sasmyth@swcp.com" class="">sasmyth@swcp.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class="">Fascist Quorum Sensing</div>
</blockquote><p class="">When 'Q' emerged in the right wing popular attention, I did make
a brief connection with "Quorum" in the sense you reference it,
though more specifically as Bee Swarm/Nest trigger/choice.
Having once been a holder of a DOE 'Q' clearance, the very idea
that that level/style of clearance would give him the kind of
insider information attributed to him/her/them was absurd. Some
of the other clearances, *maybe*, but not obviously the 'Q'.<br class="">
</p><p class="">The news today with the lame-O-bomber wannabe kicked off another
round of DHS/domestic-terror-watch warnings that another "quorum"
is trying to rise up. The (liberal) news media is giving
lip-service to not "amplifying" his signal, etc.</p><p class="">Seems like something similar (but not responsibly scientific)
about how the Taliban was able to flip the whole country almost
overnight is afoot. <br class="">
</p><p class="">- SteveS<br class="">
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<div class="">(For those who don’t do this for a living, the
reference is to the phenomenon in bacteria like Anthrax (B.
anthracis), which will multiply inside a victim for many
generations with no real chemical activity besides a normal
parasitic metabolism, but will secrete signaling chemicals.
When those chemicals hit a threshold concentration because the
population has multiplied enough, which the bacteria all know
because they all have the same genome, they switch state, turn
on the chemical attack machinery, and dissolve the victim on a
timescale far too short for any inflammatory or immune response
to do much about them.)</div>
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<div class="">Google does not show anyone as having used it yet,
even though it is a no-brainer.</div>
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<div class="">The idea being to say something productive about the
abruptness of it all. </div>
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<div class="">From Gingrich and Norquist up through end-2020, the
right thought its best strategy was to do the usual dissembling
and dogwhistling, just at higher intensity. Something has
switched and they think this —specifically — is the time to make
a run for it and to parade the fascism instead. </div>
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<div class="">While the strategic-games crowd (and military people
etc.) will say they have long written about shifting modes, the
idea that there can be an unplanned component at the popular
level akin to quorum sensing might have something to be said of
it.</div>
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<div class="">Even on the question of whether trump mattered, I
can see a sort of SFI angle on it, with the idea of “slow
timescale variables” that Jessica Flack makes central to the
rubric that for a while (perhaps still) she was calling
“construction dynamics”. The idea that a sort of
order-parameter stuck thing can smooth out fluctuations and make
an inference problem easier and more stable, or a transition in
domains more likely. Here the fast variables would have been
the Lindsay Graham characters, who flutter like day-traders
among all possible positions, trying to guess from minute to
minute what is safe. Those guys would not have put Steven
Miller’s face on TV, because they would have judged that he was
too ugly to use.</div>
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<div class="">Enter trump, whose 2024 motto can be “The Worse, The
Better”, who said “I can make ugly work.” But it didn’t change
the system state in a few months, or even in a year. The
flutterers took years of reassurance, and a couple of election
cycles, before they switched from the lysogenic to the lytic
phase. Without trump as a slow variable, would the flutterers
have continued to flutter a while longer? Can one say anything
about that that has any scientific worth, and isn’t just firing
off buzzwords?</div>
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<div class="">On Aug 20, 2021, at 7:53 AM, Marcus Daniels
<<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">“I have wondered
whether trump in the presidency was like an adjuvant
in a vaccine. Just having the antigen leaves room
for highly variable responses, because if you don’t
manage the inflammatory response that initiates the
immune response, you have only a weak control
system. Trump was so awful in so many dimensions
that he triggers inflammation in those who would
have remained asleep under Clinton.”<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The mask protests
like this one..<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2021/08/19/mask-wars-unrest-flores-pkg-dlt-vpx.cnn" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2021/08/19/mask-wars-unrest-flores-pkg-dlt-vpx.cnn</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">..strike me as
something that M. Night Shyamalan could not even
invent. Say the guy at 1:40.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I should be thinking
of these folks as my fellow citizens? Really?<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Is it just me or is
maybe the “inflammation” getting a little out of
control? For example,<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">the other day I was
driving down a narrow part of the road in my
residential area and pulled off to the side to let a
car pass that was coming the other way. He (white
middle-aged man) was not signaling, but as soon as I
spent five seconds off the side to let him pass he
started screaming at me and waving his fist out the
car window. Apparently I had dared to block his
driveway. Is it really that hard for some people
to get through their day?<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">It increasingly seems
to me that maybe there is just all this crazy just
below the surface, and all that can be done is to
keep the inflammation down.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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