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<p>I like the gesture of these works... that our apprehension of
systems is somehow the modulation of our coupling with them at
different frequencies (and thus scales)... which is not the same
as simply "filtering" <br>
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<p>It does seem as if "thinking" in it's broadest sense is a form of
coupling one's (somewhat isolated/insulated) dynamical system with
another external (ideally somewhat isolated) system. This is
the "scoping" that happens in formal and informal modeling
(analogy, metaphor, etc.). <br>
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<p>In one extreme, "mathematical thinking" couples logic with
axioms, in another, a highly trained/practiced
predator/prey/hunter/gatherer engages in an arbitrarily complex
milieu (ecosystem, landscape) in a highly effective way to
optimize some kind of internal goals. In the middle would seem
to be the range of "games" from crossword puzzles, sodoku,
tic-tac-toe, chess, go to croquet, soccer, cricket, competitive
curling, mixed martial arts, bare-knuckle big-game hunting.</p>
<p>Calling this "thinking", of course, diminishes what is more
properly called "being" I think ("I am"?) no matter if Descartes
wanted to reduce (human) being to (mere) thinking?</p>
<p>- Steve<br>
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<div>Bucky Fuller on apprehension / comprehension of systems:</div>
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<div>We ignore larger / slower frequencies. We also ignore
smaller / faster frequencies.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 9:55
AM uǝlƃ ☤>$ <<a href="mailto:gepropella@gmail.com"
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0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Ouch!
Dude. No! 8^D You're committing the same sin Nick commits. To
say we "are" our emotions ignores the composition, the algebra
by which parts compose the whole.<br>
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The point is the very high order conscious *attention* to
lower order frequencies. Not all is one. There are many parts
to organize. How are they organized?<br>
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On 8/26/21 7:50 AM, Steve Smith wrote:<br>
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>> E.g. when Bob wakes up startled, he interprets the
situation into "fear". But when Sally wakes up startled, she
interprets the situation into "excitement" or some other /a
priori/, socially limiting, filter category.<br>
> Thus my earlier suggestion that "we" "are" our
emotions? Bob *is* his<br>
> propensity to read the lower-level response of
"startlement" (closer to<br>
> autonomic) to "fear" (closer to choice). Sally also as
"excitement".<br>
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