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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoPlainText>Hi, Glen, <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>You wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=quotation><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=quotation>I read *through* the word to a constellation of ideals behind it, including dyed in the wool socialism, if not anarchism.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I cannot see how my “creation myth” as you aptly term it, leads to government control of the means of production, let alone anarchism. I am no anarchist, so if you can show me how this works, its bad news for the myth. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Nick <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Nick Thompson<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>ThompNickSon2@gmail.com<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Friam <friam-bounces@redfish.com> On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$<br>Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 4:48 PM<br>To: friam@redfish.com<br>Subject: Re: [FRIAM] "All [persons] are created equal"</p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Yeah, talk of equality is sophistry, in the bad sense of the word. But, NOT being a postmodernist, myself, I read *through* the word to a constellation of ideals behind it, including dyed in the wool socialism, if not anarchism. But unlike Nick's creation myth, I tend to think of it in terms of Respect for Persons ... or simply Respect: <a href="https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/respect/"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/respect/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>In fact, one place the righties have it right is that to equalize everything in a single dimension (e.g. redistribution of money) is ultimately disrespectful and, hence, a violation of the principle of equality (if understood as respect). Where they go wrong is in rejecting the idea of equalizing according to a large fabric of variables, which is what motivates equalization by money ... because ... wait for it ... money is a good, reductive, singular candidate for hyper-reduction ... well, fiat money anyway. So, only because we live in a largely capitalist society, does equalization via money make sense ... because money is a medium, not a thing, in itself.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Obviously, I have my doubts about money as a fluid medium. But we've argued that to death already.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>On 8/26/21 1:22 PM, Steve Smith wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Marcus wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> You are made of matter following some trajectory that was initiated with the big bang, and you will go where you will go. There is no “deserve”.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> "The universe is flux, all else is opinion" - M. Aurelius<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> and... <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> "they're merely talking to hear themselves speak" - G. Ropella<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>--<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Segoe UI Symbol",sans-serif'>☤</span>>$ uǝlƃ<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>- .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. .<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe <a href="http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>FRIAM-COMIC <a href="http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>archives: <a href="http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>