<div dir="ltr">Nick,<br><br>I quote from <a href="https://www.britannica.com/science/scientific-theory">https://www.britannica.com/science/scientific-theory</a><div>"In attempting to explain objects and events, the scientist employs (1) careful observation or experiments, (2) reports of regularities, and (3) systematic explanatory schemes (theories). The statements of regularities, if accurate, may be taken as empirical laws expressing continuing relationships among the objects or characteristics observed."<br><br>Based on this, I reckon, because you have reported the regularities, you have discovered an empirical scientific law. Congratulations!<br><br>Next is to systematically explain it, then you have a scientific theory!<br><br>Maybe I did not answer your question? You asked if this is an empirical discovery or a mathematical one.</div><div><br>IMO you have done only the first part, the empirical discovery. This could now be taken further and if you can prove it using formal mathematics, then only can you claim you have made a mathematical discovery. So, it is (not yet) a mathematical discovery. Sorry to blow your bubble.<br><br>P</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 3 Sept 2021 at 17:24, <<a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="gmail-m_31830312537365133WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">Colleagues,<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Years ago, my daughter, who knows I hate to shop, bought me a bunch of plain T-shirts. The label’s on the shirts were printed, rather than attached, and so have faded. Each morning, this leaves me with the problem of decerning which is the front and which the back of the shirt, and even, which the inside and which the out-. After years of fussing with these shirts I decerned a pattern. Up/down, inside-in/inside-out, left/right, front/back, crossed arms/uncrossed arms, you can’t do one transformation without doing at least one other. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Is this an empirical discovery or a mathematical one? <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I guess it boils down to whether “front/back” entails in its meaning another transformation. Should we call empirical discoveries “discoveries” and mathematical discoveries “revelations”?<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Nick <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Nick Thompson<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:ThompNickSon2@gmail.com" target="_blank">ThompNickSon2@gmail.com</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/" target="_blank">https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div>- .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. .<br>
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